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CAN-USA Tariff Strife (split from various pol threads)

Honestly, we provide Quebec with more than enough cash than anyone else and lopsided in their favour. They can bail themselves out. I'm tired of Quebec driving the car.

Realistically, we'll pay for it.

How much did it cost us when we closed the Canadian Wheat Board? I don't hear western Canada screaming for their return.

There’s new risk in that. If tariffs are going to be leveraged at Canada as a weapon, there is both commercial and reputation at risk in tying oneself via business ventures to prominent figures within the U.S. oligarchy.
Ya but I don't think the grain farmers had around several billion in personal and small business debt tied up in it.
 
Apparently half our banks already are American. It’s just the ones that want to exploit you more than regulations allow that are not getting in the door.
Look. I'm not advocating that relaxing banking regulation is a good thing for us. Or that ending supply management is the right call- or that literally any material concession isn't opening a pandoras box of potential future exploitation.

But.... hope isn't a COA, and doing nothing isn't an option. These discussions need to be had, and Trudeau has to be considering all options. He needs to rise to this in a big way- regardless of what you or anyone else thinks of the man- he's at the plate. He's likely going to have to choose between bad and worse. Writing a speech claiming the moral high ground doesn't fix this.

I get that I'm a guest on a military discussion board. But frankly- this conflict is not going to be fought by the military. The costs will not be born in the blood of soldiers- they will be born by the livelihoods and financial well being of those of us that directly depend on a functioning economy. So while you might have the prerogative to wax patronizingly about Anschluss and take the position of patriotic absolutism- some of us don't. We depend on a soft landing from this. Whether it's a strong, cogent plan to pivot away from our US reliance and prop up the populace in the intervening years, or walking the tightrope and negotiating the least bad economic concessions, or kissing the ring with some performative border bullshit- the game needs to be played.
 
Ya but I don't think the grain farmers had around several billion in personal and small business debt tied up in it.

Like I said, I have zero sympathy for anyone dumping perfectly good product to manipulate the market while we have millions of people using food banks and living in trudeauvilles. Dumping with people starving is pure callous profiteering not to mention the waste.

Let them eat cake indeed.
 
... How much did it cost us when we closed sold the Canadian Wheat Board ? I don't hear western Canada screaming for their return.
Maybe not western Canada as a whole, but a bunch of the farmers are still at 'er ....
 
Are you suggesting that “nothing” is what the response has been? Because I am pretty sure I have seen action at both provincial and federal levels.
My post was not directed at the federal or provincial government, it was directed at your sniping at any discussion of a negotiated off ramp.
You know, you being facty and everything is NOT going to improve the memes ....
Facty like pointing out that said statistics without context are pure spin, and that an aggregate 113billion in the context of Canadian banking is trivial?
 
Or they're figuring out how to spin bad news.
But I do think the news will be bad.

I can't see Team Red doing a 180 degree turn at this point. They are so out to lunch they don't know that the food has been cleared, the guests have left, the restaurant is closed and they have been stuck with the bill and have been locked in overnight in the building.
 
Unfortunately I have a habit of looking at the worst scenarios so I can surprise myself if the news is better. I know it's not a healthy habit, but on the flip side, I'm seldom disappointed when I get things right.😉
I've built my career at looking for 'Black Swan' events over the last 10-12yrs - my family hates it.
 
... Facty like pointing out that said statistics without context are pure spin, and that an aggregate 113billion in the context of Canadian banking is trivial?
Well, naive, starry eyed me continues to go with what POTUS47 says - also without context as well as what some would consider pure spin: "Canada doesn’t even allow U.S. Banks to open or do business there."

So, who's lying, then? ;)
 
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