Canada moves to 2% GDP end of FY25/26 - PMMC

[CBH99]

I didn't think we hit 2% yet.

After some quick reading, I think you're right.

(I thought I had read recently that the DND budget was increased by $8.1B to meet that 2% goal, and read elsewhere it was closer to an extra $9B...but now that I google it, I think I got my wires crossed somewhere)

 

[dapaterson]

GoC intent as I understand it is for the 25/26 whole of government defence expenditures (cash, not accrual) to be 2% of GDP.

 

[daftandbarmy]

And?

How well is that welfare thing working out for us?

20% success is better than 0%.

...

In the "real world" how many people go through two or three jobs before they find a fit and settle down.

Looks like 50/50...

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[MilEME09]

After some quick reading, I think you're right.

(I thought I had read recently that the DND budget was increased by $8.1B to meet that 2% goal, and read elsewhere it was closer to an extra $9B...but now that I google it, I think I got my wires crossed somewhere)

Bill C6 and C7 added a fair bit to the DND budget, but it will take a lot more then money at the problem to fix things. Talking with some very Senior RCEME types, we could hit 2% just buying spare parts to get our VOR rate as close to 0 as possible.

 

[dapaterson]

Bill C6 and C7 added a fair bit to the DND budget, but it will take a lot more then money at the problem to fix things. Talking with some very Senior RCEME types, we could hit 2% just buying spare parts to get our VOR rate as close to 0 as possible.

Not all needed spares are readily available on the market.

There's a need for a national defence industrial strategy that also looks at reliable partner nations.

 

[MilEME09]

Not all needed spares are readily available on the market.

There's a need for a national defence industrial strategy that also looks at reliable partner nations.

Not just partners, stock piling, we need warehouses of technical stores again

 

[FJAG]

Not all needed spares are readily available on the market.

There's a need for a national defence industrial strategy that also looks at reliable partner nations.

Not just partners, stock piling, we need warehouses of technical stores again

And our own manufacturing base.

 

[Ludoc]

Not just partners, stock piling, we need warehouses of technical stores again

Not just that, tools. If an MRT gets blown up but the crew survives how do they replace whats in their tool boxes? I'm not just talking about wrenches but specialty diagnostic equipment. For better or worse, everything we buy has computers and electronics sensors embedded. The types of equipment we need to service that stuff isn't something we can just buy at Canadian Tire. If Veh Techs/FCS Techs/Sig Techs/etc need replacements they come from industry, not a stock pile. If we need a lot of tools, fast, to grow the Army in an emergency we will have the same problem we did buying masks during COVID. Other nations, with deeper pockets, will be out bidding us.

 

[MilEME09]

Not just that, tools. If an MRT gets blown up but the crew survives how do they replace whats in their tool boxes? I'm not just talking about wrenches but specialty diagnostic equipment. For better or worse, everything we buy has computers and electronics sensors embedded. The types of equipment we need to service that stuff isn't something we can just buy at Canadian Tire. If Veh Techs/FCS Techs/Sig Techs/etc need replacements they come from industry, not a stock pile. If we need a lot of tools, fast, to grow the Army in an emergency we will have the same problem we did buying masks during COVID. Other nations, with deeper pockets, will be out bidding us.

100% some of it would be as simple as having a CnC machine in every mat shop. Plus the blueprints, others? We definitely would need extras in stock. Honestly our tech tool boxes havent changed checklists in about 30 years but plenty of amendments and add ons have been done, so they really should redo them for what we deal with in modern equipment.

 

[Eaglelord17]

100% some of it would be as simple as having a CnC machine in every mat shop. Plus the blueprints, others? We definitely would need extras in stock. Honestly our tech tool boxes havent changed checklists in about 30 years but plenty of amendments and add ons have been done, so they really should redo them for what we deal with in modern equipment.

CnCs aren’t that simple, if your going to do that you need to bring back a full machinist trade. The need is there, that being said it is easier to contract it out and keep the PYs then to lose the PYs.

 

[YZT580]

CnCs aren’t that simple, if your going to do that you need to bring back a full machinist trade. The need is there, that being said it is easier to contract it out and keep the PYs then to lose the PYs.

If we are trying to move towards 2% or more shouldn't we be looking at rebuilding some of the trades we dumped in the process of cutting costs?