Canada seeks to buy Long Range Precision Rockets (probably US MLRS or HIMARS)
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I prefer the AML solution that is in the works in the US.
The CAML-M variant takes a HIMARS truck, removes the crew, lengthens the launch bed and adds a second pod. Two pods and C130 transportable.
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I mean, it is a priority again and this time with momentum.
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Having said that, I do wonder at what "long" means, and how the Canadian Army sees using that range.
Clearly there is a mismatch between the tactical needs of an expeditionary division and a 1500 km missile.
Conversely those 1500 km missiles might buy us more international friends because they can secure some fairly large countries.
Much the same way a naval force can dominate a large chunk of sea due to the weapons in its VLS cells.
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Looking at the US INDOPACOM situation both the Army and the Marines have decided to exploit their long range artillery and de-emphasize the other ground forces.
Their force structure seems to be shaking out as 4 divisions with 2 small light or abn brigades and a long range arty brigade or multi domain task force. Similar, I think, to the Marine Littoral Regiments in concept but on a larger scale.
The ground force is either a security force to protect the guns or else it is another long range projectile.
Clearly there is a mismatch between the tactical needs of an expeditionary division and a 1500 km missile.
Conversely those 1500 km missiles might buy us more international friends because they can secure some fairly large countries.
Much the same way a naval force can dominate a large chunk of sea due to the weapons in its VLS cells.
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Looking at the US INDOPACOM situation both the Army and the Marines have decided to exploit their long range artillery and de-emphasize the other ground forces.
Their force structure seems to be shaking out as 4 divisions with 2 small light or abn brigades and a long range arty brigade or multi domain task force. Similar, I think, to the Marine Littoral Regiments in concept but on a larger scale.
The ground force is either a security force to protect the guns or else it is another long range projectile.
The Pacific Theatre is just different, as the Australians are discovering with their own HIMARS. While 500km is impressive in the NATO context (it lets you shoot from Riga into Minsk or Pskov) —distances in the Pacific are measured in thousands, not hundreds of kilometres. Hence why things like the Long Range Hypersonic Weapon/Dark Eagle are so important. The US is also bringing back ground launched Tomahawk, made famous in the Cold War.
With Canada getting into the Tomahawk game anyway with the River-class, ground launched Tomahawk might be a natural fit for Canada — if we’re serious about the Pacific.
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There is a whole lot more than a handful of ground-launched Tomahawk launchers required for the CA to be serious about the operations in the Pacific.
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Absolutely agree. And the SM-6 as an all singing all dancing round.
It is widely seen as the stable mate for the Tomahawk with comparable Surface to Surface ranges, precision, anti-ship capable, anti-air and anti-ballistic missile.
And it can be carried by army trucks, navy ships and air force aircraft.
It makes a better fit for us than Patriot. Especially if paired with NASAMS for AIM-9s, AIM-7s, AIM-120s and ESSMs in the MRAD sphere. All of those a tri-service rounds.
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Parking a Tomahawk/SM6 Battery in Southern Sweden would make a significant strategic statement. Just as would similar batteries in Comox, Greenwood and Resolute.
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Norway has decided to go with Hanwha's Chunmoo
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Someone’s starting to eat someone’s lunch….
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You don't buy weapons with a significant cyber component from someone who has recently threatened you. There may not be a bespoke "kill switch" but the country with proprietary access to the hardware and software is the country who knows the known vulnerabilities.
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NORKs claiming 385 km autonomous precision.
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World’s Longest Ranged Rocket Artillery Demonstrated in North Korean Exercises
The Korean People’s Army on January 27 conducted live fire exercises using an upgraded variant of the country’s longest range rocket artillery system, referred to by
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And Poland will be making the rockets.
Poland to manufacture missiles for Norway's South Korean rocket artillery
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And another entry into the low cost cruise missile, one way attack drone, loitering munition, decoy market.
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200 NM range.
I am including it here because all missiles seem to be crossing domains when it comes to launch platforms. Just add a rocket booster and you have a surface or ground launched version.
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200 NM range.
I am including it here because all missiles seem to be crossing domains when it comes to launch platforms. Just add a rocket booster and you have a surface or ground launched version.
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Hanwha Aerospace details $922 million deal to supply Chunmoo multiple rocket launcher system to Norway - Defence Industry Europe
Hanwha Aerospace has signed a contract with Norway’s Defence Material Agency to supply the Chunmoo multiple rocket launcher system to the Norwegian Armed Forces, marking its first major defence deal of 2026.
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Hanwha Aerospace has signed a contract with Norway’s Defence Material Agency to supply the Chunmoo multiple rocket launcher system to the Norwegian Armed Forces, marking its first major defence deal of 2026. The agreement, signed in Oslo on January 30, covers 16 launch vehicles, a package of precision-guided missiles and integrated logistics support, with a value of about $922 million.
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The Chunmoo contract forms part of a wider Norwegian long-range fires programme budgeted at around $2 billion
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The deal follows nearly a decade of cooperation between Hanwha Aerospace and the Norwegian Armed Forces, beginning with a 2017 contract for K9 VIDAR self-propelled howitzers and K10 ammunition resupply vehicles. Hanwha said the on-time delivery and established logistics framework of the K9 fleet were a key technical reference in Norway’s selection of Chunmoo.
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With Norway’s order, the user base of the Chunmoo system expands to include South Korea, Poland, Estonia and countries in the Middle East,
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Rusty Dagger a 500 lb payload with a 250 to 280 mile range for a ptice approaching that of a Javelin ATGM instead of a Tomahawk.
Produced in under two years.
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42 units a month
850 MUSD for 3350
~ 250 KUSD apiece.
Produced in under two years.
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Rusty Daggers are headed for Ukraine, but the effort to field low-cost cruise missiles could have big implications for the U.S. military. The effort to rapidly develop and field a low-cost cruise missile could have big implications for the U.S. military.
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42 units a month
850 MUSD for 3350
~ 250 KUSD apiece.
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U.S. Army to Accelerate Fielding of 1000 km Anti-Ship PrSM - Naval News
The U.S. Army wants to accelerate the development of a PrSM variant capable of striking maritime targets over a thousand kilometers away.
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I heard some discussion about why the Army would spend money on long range fires that could be supplied by the air force or the navy.
For starters they don't need to burn gas just to stand in place. They can park up and mind their own business until there is some trade in the area.
As to being able to fly them in .... the fly them in, roll out, fire, retire, fly out scenario doesn't make any sense to me. For that type of situation you might as well send a fighter/LRASM combo to deal with a one-off shot.
On the other hand, being able to rapidly relocate to face evolving threats makes all the sense in the world.
Now if only somebody would invent a 1000 km ASROC.
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In two words - persistent overlap. It provides one more A2/AD system that will be there when neither aircraft nor ships are available or within range.
That's a technique and it might work in some situations but I certainly wouldn't use it routinely. It's the HIMARS equivalent of the old artillery "sniping gun" procedure. That's when you sent a gun forward to the infantry in order to take out, with direct fire, a stubborn pill box or other fortified position hard to hit with indirect fire. We used to practice that every few years to keep our hand in it and because its a fun shoot.
Yup.
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Subs move, so even a hypersonic missile 1000km away is going to miss the target.
