ArmyVern said:
Given how many years the Expres lasted in PT strip, I'm inclined to believe that our institution considers PT Strip to be just fine.
The CF has come right out and said that the Express was less than “just fine.” Rather, the CF Express failed as a reliable predictor of success in the common operational tasks. It should be the last thing one points to as proof of “just fine.”
ArmyVern said:
... in all the years of bitching about our last UofS minimal test - the CF Expres Test - never once do I recall seeing or hearing anyone bitch about how it did not truly reflect operational tasks due to it being done in PT strip.
No, nobody would have pointed to PT strip because the test itself was so far removed from reflecting the operational tasks that it was not worth getting to the topic of dress. However, the relevance of operational dress and equipment comes up quite frequently in discussions of the BFT because that test was at least recognizable to military tasks. A push-up does not directly correlate to any task regardless of the clothing. Unlike the new tests, doing Express in operational uniform would not make it any more realistic or accurate an evaluation.
ArmyVern said:
Running shoes would be the one common type of footwear that we currently all have is all I'm saying.
There is as much variance in the types of running shoes out there as there is in boots.
SeaKingTacco said:
That list is mixing clothing and equipment. Helmets, armour, load-carriage, cold/arctic clothing, immersion clothing, etc, etc don’t belong in the common CF fitness test. However, everyone has an operational uniform with boots. Everyone must be able to do the operational tasks in that operational uniform with that operational footwear.
captloadie said:
... since when do L1's, even the Comd of the CA, get to go it alone. Last time I checked, he has to follow direction just like everyone else.
The Army has been going its own direction with respect to fitness testing for the last many years. It has been called the LFCPFS and the test was also known as the BFT.
Desirably, the CF would go to one common standard. But it would not be unreasonable of the Army to insist that standard include the bare operational uniform as dress while pers perform task simulations.