Infantry of Tomorrow

[daftandbarmy]

unlimited ammo, in what reality?

Compared to what the light infantry can carry, tanks have unlimited coax

 

[KevinB]

Is it 880 in the can on a Leo 2? That’s what @KevinB is getting at. Obviously it’s not unlimited. It just represents substantially more sustained fire power than a section.

4000 in the Abrams. I thought the Leo2 had the same.

Does that matter? Is it material to their understanding of how their Meekavs employed the small space they have? Because what it has is a small space meant primarily for ammunition storage that can - in extremis - be used to carry soldiers. It is not some tank / IFV hybrid. It’s a crawl space.

110%. It is an emergency evacuation shelter, and mainly as a rear egress route.
It wasn’t intended as an IFV. Furthermore the space only really existed because when the IDF looked at crew losses, the majority where from engine fires - so they put the engine up front to also provide protection to the crew (rounds need to into it first) and the rear was designed to allow the crew to exit the vehicle. When they realized they had more room, it was then setup to accommodate being able to shelter a lost crew from another tank. The entire IFV aspect is a myth that has been popularized from folks not understanding the concept.

 

[markppcli]

4000 in the Abrams. I thought the Leo2 had the same.

110%. It is an emergency evacuation shelter, and mainly as a rear egress route.
It wasn’t intended as an IFV. Furthermore the space only really existed because when the IDF looked at crew losses, the majority where from engine fires - so they put the engine up front to also provide protection to the crew (rounds need to into it first) and the rear was designed to allow the crew to exit the vehicle. When they realized they had more room, it was then setup to accommodate being able to shelter a lost crew from another tank. The entire IFV aspect is a myth that has been popularized from folks not understanding the concept.

It’s 4000 in the Leo, but that’s for both and I believe the bin itself is only 4 belts but I could t find details and am probably wrong.

 

[KevinB]

It’s 4000 in the Leo, but that’s for both and I believe the bin itself is only 4 belts but I could t find details and am probably wrong.

I’ve admittedly never dug into that deep.
When I was in Fallujah a MARSOC team had some twin 240 setups on Hummers with a ginormous ammo bin on both sides (running a left and right fed gun) when I asked them how much it had and where they got it - they said it was the hopper bins from an Abrams and each held 4000 rounds, so I accepted that as gospel.