Joe Rogan and Pierre Poilievre interview

[Halifax Tar]

The CPC needs to think outside the box like the LPC did and find their MC. PPs replacement doesn't have to come from an MPs seat.

Having said that, a couple I could see as reasonable replacements would be Houston in NS and Ford in Ont.

Both of those Premiers are struggling as of late.

 

[suffolkowner]

At the risk of the LPC getting a majority, more MPs like Ma, Gladu, and Idlout should leave the Conservative party.

its a little gross and opportunistic for all involved. I dont know what any of the above expect to get out of it or what PMMC gets out of it exactly other than greater numbers

 

[Halifax Tar]

its a little gross and opportunistic for all involved. I dont know what any of the above expect to get out of it or what PMMC gets out of it exactly other than greater numbers

The LPC hates PP like the CPC hated JT.

I also think the LPC super pissed JT got chased out of... Canada really. He was their great sun prince.

All of this is just rubbing a dog's nose in it and their using our democracy for it. Just call an election get your 200 seats already.

 

[Jarnhamar]

its a little gross and opportunistic for all involved. I dont know what any of the above expect to get out of it or what PMMC gets out of it exactly other than greater numbers

Carney is showing us running Canada is a business. Politics based in ideology is going by the way side. There's benefits to that. It's also going to come with a healthy dose of be quiet, pay your taxes, and mind your own business.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Carney is showing us running Canada is a business. Politics based in ideology is going by the way side. There's benefits to that. It's also going to come with a healthy dose of be quiet, pay your taxes, and mind your own business.

Is that a good idea though? Running government as a business? I recall a certain politician south of us being accused of doing that and being roundly pillored for it. Or is it just a difference in styles? I'm not looking to turn this into a tangent, just looking for a quick explanation. Politics or business. I think there should be a hybrid between the two.

 

[suffolkowner]

Is that a good idea though? Running government as a business? I recall a certain politician south of us being accused of doing that and being roundly pillored for it. Or is it just a difference in styles? I'm not looking to turn this into a tangent, just looking for a quick explanation. Politics or business. I think there should be a hybrid between the two.

because the guy down south runs things like he ran his business not like a business

 

[Fishbone Jones]

because the guy down south runs things like he ran his business not like a business

But his businesses are businesses and they've made him a billionaire worth between 6 - 7 billion, according to Forbes and Bloomberg.

If anyone wishes to give real answers to my questions, I'll wait. You can even just PM me as to not clog this thread up. Otherwise back to Rogan/ Poliviere.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Is that a good idea though? Running government as a business? I recall a certain politician south of us being accused of doing that and being roundly pillored for it. Or is it just a difference in styles? I'm not looking to turn this into a tangent, just looking for a quick explanation. Politics or business. I think there should be a hybrid between the two.

Problem with government running as a business is it has clients with wildly competing interests and complete and utter monopoly. We don't really want a super efficient government, because it will tilt to authoritarianism as the most efficient way to perform.

 

[brihard]

Is that a good idea though? Running government as a business? I recall a certain politician south of us being accused of doing that and being roundly pillored for it. Or is it just a difference in styles? I'm not looking to turn this into a tangent, just looking for a quick explanation. Politics or business. I think there should be a hybrid between the two.

So I guess it depends on what we mean by “running it as a business”?

A government is not a for profit enterprise. We shouldn’t look to ‘government as a business” in that sense.

We have seen descriptions of PM Carney bringing a more businesslike approach to what’s going on around him; meetings that start promptly and run on time. People who dress and behave professionally. I think we here have largely applauded that; it’s a refreshingly serious approach.

And then there’s the larger government being pushed to seek efficiency, reduce spending on less important areas, shrink a bloated public service… I think most of us are generally good with that too.

Maybe I’m not reading it the same as others but that’s my take.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

So I guess it depends on what we mean by “running it as a business”?

A government is not a for profit enterprise. We shouldn’t look to ‘government as a business” in that sense.

We have seen descriptions of PM Carney bringing a more businesslike approach to what’s going on around him; meetings that start promptly and run on time. People who dress and behave professionally. I think we here have largely applauded that; it’s a refreshingly serious approach.

And then there’s the larger government being pushed to seek efficiency, reduce spending on less important areas, shrink a bloated public service… I think most of us are generally good with that too.

Maybe I’m not reading it the same as others but that’s my take.

Like everything, a bit of a business like approach would be good for government. But if you do to much of it, the effects start to go negative.

 

[ArmyRick]

Pierre Poilievre on Juno News tonight.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

Pierre Poilievre on Juno News tonight.

Oh stop it. There is nothing “false majority” about floor crossings.

How about, Pierre, you self-reflect on why MPs are motivated to defect to the Government and work on that?

 

[ArmyRick]

Oh stop it. There is nothing “false majority” about floor crossings.

How about, Pierre, you self-reflect on why MPs are motivated to defect to the Government and work on that?

You did actually watch the video? Or did you just say bad Pierre because of the title? Curious?

 

[SeaKingTacco]

You did actually watch the video? Or did you just say bad Pierre because of the title? Curious?

I actually, generally, like Pierre.

But to command a majority (confidence) in Parliament, all you have to do is routinely convince a majority of MPs to vote your way. If you convinced them to cross the floor- even better, I guess, but you had always better be sceptical of their motives. That was my only point.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Poilievres idea about being able to recall MP's to parliment for by-elections if they cross the floor, or just as a means of accountability is great. Canadians should demand that.

 

[ArmyRick]

I actually, generally, like Pierre.

But to command a majority (confidence) in Parliament, all you have to do is routinely convince a majority of MPs to vote your way. If you convinced them to cross the floor- even better, I guess, but you had always better be sceptical of their motives. That was my only point.

So did you watch the video? Yes or no?

 

[RangerRay]

I remember in my partisan days raging at Belinda Stronach crossing, then a little while later cheering David Emerson crossing.

Now, I don’t really care. If they were offered a better job, whatever. If this is their one way to hold the leadership of the party accountable for poor leadership if there’s not enough support for a full-on revolt, whatever. They will be held accountable for their decision at the next election for, as Burke would say, using their judgment.

 

[Bruce Monkhouse]

Cross the floor all you want and vote however you want. In four years or less you answer to your constituents.
Things would be a lot better if we weren't slowly sliding into US- style Dems and Rebs and never shall the two meet.

 

[Jarnhamar]

I remember in my partisan days raging at Belinda Stronach crossing, then a little while later cheering David Emerson crossing.

Now, I don’t really care. If they were offered a better job, whatever. If this is their one way to hold the leadership of the party accountable for poor leadership if there’s not enough support for a full-on revolt, whatever. They will be held accountable for their decision at the next election for, as Burke would say, using their judgment.

Imagine hiring a lawyer to represent you in court only they start pursuing issues counter to your own and your only recourse is to hire different lawyer, but only after paying them for 4 years.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

Imagine hiring a lawyer to represent you in court only they start pursuing issues counter to your own and your only recourse is to hire different lawyer, but only after paying them for 4 years.

It is not the same thing, at all.

Your MP is your MP whether you voted for them or not. They represent everyone in your riding.