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Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

Canada says it will look at increasing its defence spending and tacked on 10 more Russian names to an ever growing sanctions list.

By Tonda MacCharles
Ottawa Bureau
Mon., March 7, 2022

Riga, LATVIA—On the 13th day of the brutal Russian bid to claim Ukraine as its own, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is showing up at the Latvian battle group led by Canadian soldiers, waving the Maple Leaf and a vague hint at more money for the military.

Canada has been waving the NATO flag for nearly seven years in Latvia as a bulwark against Russia’s further incursions in Eastern Europe.

Canada stepped up to lead one of NATO’s four battle groups in 2015 — part of the defensive alliance’s display of strength and solidarity with weaker member states after Russia invaded Ukraine and seized the Crimean peninsula in 2014. Trudeau arrived in the Latvian capital late Monday after meetings in the U.K. with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Netherlands Prime Minister Mark Rutte.

Earlier Monday, faced with a seemingly unstoppable war in Ukraine, Trudeau said he will look at increasing Canada’s defence spending. Given world events, he said there are “certainly reflections to have.”

And Canada tacked on 10 more Russian names to an ever-growing sanctions list.

The latest round of sanctions includes names Trudeau said were identified by jailed Russian opposition leader and Putin nemesis Alexei Navalny.

However, on a day when Trudeau cited the new sanctions, and Johnson touted new measures meant to expose Russian property owners in his country, Rutte admitted sanctions are not working.

Yet they all called for more concerted international efforts over the long haul, including more economic measures and more humanitarian aid, with Johnson and Rutte divided over how quickly countries need to get off Russian oil and gas.

The 10 latest names on Canada’s target list do not include Roman Abramovich — a Russian billionaire Navalny has been flagging to Canada since at least 2017. Canada appears to have sanctioned about 20 of the 35 names on Navalny’s list.

The Conservative opposition says the Liberal government is not yet exerting maximum pressure on Putin, and should do more to bolster Canadian Forces, including by finally approving the purchase of fighter jets.

Foreign affairs critic Michael Chong said in an interview that Ottawa must still sanction “additional oligarchs close to President Putin who have significant assets in Canada.”

Abramovich owns more than a quarter of the public shares in steelmaking giant Evraz, which has operations in Alberta and Saskatchewan and has supplied most of the steel for the government-owned Trans Mountain pipeline project.

Evraz’s board of directors also includes two more Russians the U.S. government identified as “oligarchs” in 2019 — Aleksandr Abramov and Aleksandr Frolov — and its Canadian operations have received significant support from the federal government.

That includes at least $27 million in emergency wage subsidies during the pandemic, as well as $7 million through a fund meant to help heavy-polluters reduce emissions that cause climate change, according to the company’s most recent annual report.

In addition to upping defence spending, the Conservatives want NORAD’s early warning system upgraded, naval shipbuilding ramped up and Arctic security bolstered.

In London, Johnson sat down with Trudeau and Rutte at the Northolt airbase. Their morning meetings had a rushed feel, with Johnson starting to usher press out before Trudeau spoke. His office said later that the British PM couldn’t squeeze the full meeting in at 10 Downing Street because Johnson’s “diary” was so busy that day. The three leaders held an afternoon news conference at 10 Downing.

But before that Trudeau met with the Queen, saying she was “insightful” and they had a “useful, for me anyway, conversation about global affairs.”

Trudeau meets with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg Tuesday in Latvia.

The prime minister will also meet with three Baltic leaders, the prime ministers of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, in the Latvian capital of Riga.

The Liberals announced they would increase the 500 Canadian Forces in Latvia by another 460 troops. The Canadians are leading a multinational battle group, one of four that are part of NATO’s deployments in the region.

Another 3,400 Canadians could be deployed to the region in the months to come, on standby for NATO orders.

But Canada’s shipments of lethal aid to Ukraine were slow to come in the view of the Conservatives, and the Ukrainian Canadian community.

And suddenly Western allies are eyeing each other’s defence commitments.

At the Downing Street news conference, Rutte noted the Netherlands will increase its defence budget to close to two per cent of GDP. Germany has led the G7, and doubled its defence budget in the face of Putin’s invasion and threats. Johnson said the U.K. defence spending is about 2.4 per cent and declined to comment on Canada’s defence spending which is 1.4 per cent of GDP.

But Johnson didn’t hold back.

“What we can’t do, post the invasion of Ukraine is assume that we go back to a kind of status quo ante, a kind of new normalization in the way that we did after the … seizure of Crimea and the Donbas area,” Johnson said. “We’ve got to recognize that things have changed and that we need a new focus on security and I think that that is kind of increasingly understood by everybody.”

Trudeau stood by his British and Dutch counterparts and pledged Canada would do more.

He defended his government’s record, saying Ottawa is gradually increasing spending over the next decade by 70 per cent. Then Trudeau admitted more might be necessary.

“We also recognize that context is changing rapidly around the world and we need to make sure that women and men have certainty and our forces have all the equipment necessary to be able to stand strongly as we always have. As members of NATO. We will continue to look at what more we can do.”

The three leaders — Johnson, a conservative and Trudeau and Rutte, progressive liberals — in a joint statement said they “will continue to impose severe costs on Russia.”

Arriving for the news conference from Windsor Castle, Trudeau had to detour to enter Downing Street as loud so-called Freedom Convoy protesters bellowed from outside the gate. They carried signs marked “Tuck Frudeau” and “Free Tamara” (Lich).

Protester Jeff Wyatt who said he has no Canadian ties told the Star he came to stand up for Lich and others who were leading a “peaceful protest” worldwide against government “lies” about COVID-19 and what he called Trudeau’s “tyranny.”

Elsewhere in London, outside the Russian embassy, other protesters and passersby reflected on what they said was real tyranny — the Russian attack on Ukraine. “I think we should be as tough as possible to get this stopped, as tough as possible,” said protester Clive Martinez.
 
Okay for the 1000th time this was a GoC rule that all federally regulated facilities must provide feminine hygiene products in all bathrooms. This rule came into effect Dec 1, and includes the CAF.
Ah. So another department's budget covers it, and it isn't accounted as military spending.
 
Okay for the 1000th time this was a GoC rule that all federally regulated facilities must provide feminine hygiene products in all bathrooms. This rule came into effect Dec 1, and includes the CAF.
I get it but I still think it is one of the STUPIDEST regulations ever made. If you have female parts then you use the female washroom and if you have male parts you use the male washroom.
This GoC is one of the silliest governments ever.


Plead Monty Python GIF
 
I get it but I still think it is one of the STUPIDEST regulations ever made. If you have female parts then you use the female washroom and if you have male parts you use the male washroom.
This GoC is one of the silliest governments ever.


Plead Monty Python GIF
I don't police what is or is not in your pants. Frankly, unless I'm a medical professional and you're my patient, or if we're in a romantic relationship, it's none of my damned business.
 
MGen Dundon may be content with the CA ammunition situation but I don’t think it’s the correct assessment nor does much of the army.

There is some good news in the article about how we could do procurement if we allow it and follow through but there is some concerning items as well. 84mm Carl G for example, why would you be looking at other manufacturers and other systems when you could just order 2000 new M4s with Aimpoint FCS?

In terms of M777 and Leo I just see indecision and paralysis on the part of the CA and the CAF.
The UK has already started to replace donated artillery with Swedish Archers and are experimenting with them.

Yeah. I caught that.

Carl Gustaf rocket launchers are another piece of equipment that isn’t fabricated anymore, so we are looking at more modern systems from multiple firms.

Apparently Saab Bofors Dynamics has ceased production of the Carl Gustaf. Or do they just not want to sell to Kanada?


FMG.

Dindon.
 
Yeah. I caught that.



Apparently Saab Bofors Dynamics has ceased production of the Carl Gustaf. Or do they just not want to sell to Kanada?


FMG.

Dindon.
Just stopped making obsolete ones. Historically Canada does its best to buy what was already in the system.
 
It’s a peculiar phenomenon that we have of wanting to replace our old equipment that we donated with the exact same old system and sort of complain when we can’t because industry and other forces have moved on.

The 84mm is a simple example where it should be easy to replace the entire active inventory with new M4s snd move the M3 and M2s to war stocks. If we can’t do that with a simple weapon system it doesn’t bode well for the more complex weapons.
 
It’s a peculiar phenomenon that we have of wanting to replace our old equipment that we donated with the exact same old system and sort of complain when we can’t because industry and other forces have moved on.

The 84mm is a simple example where it should be easy to replace the entire active inventory with new M4s snd move the M3 and M2s to war stocks. If we can’t do that with a simple weapon system it doesn’t bode well for the more complex weapons.
It’s an unfortunate common place thing in a lot of Western Militaries.
In 2009/2010 the CA bought more SIMRAD night vision despite both inline clip ons being available, (and had been used for over a 15years previously in CANSOF) and the SIMRAD being obsolete by well over a decade

In 2014 the USMC and US Army bought tens of thousands more x4 ACOG sights despite the availability of 1-4x and 1-8x LPVO’s that had US NSN’s. Because heaven forbid one get new stuff that works better…
 
It’s a peculiar phenomenon that we have of wanting to replace our old equipment that we donated with the exact same old system and sort of complain when we can’t because industry and other forces have moved on.

The 84mm is a simple example where it should be easy to replace the entire active inventory with new M4s snd move the M3 and M2s to war stocks. If we can’t do that with a simple weapon system it doesn’t bode well for the more complex weapons.

I am not sure how his outlook on the CG84 M4 meshes with these comments of his:

... Continuous Capability Sustainment is about moving away from the standard approach of starting a project every time you buy something. The rationale being, when you start a project, you do so because you’ve been asked to do something new. At no point has the government ever asked us to stop moving, shooting or communicating. Really, all we want to do is be able to keep up with technology in those three regards. It’s a bit of tweaking. That entails transferring money from a Capital account over to an In-Service Support account. You improve your equipment through cycles of faster iteration. As opposed to doing a big buy, a midlife upgrade, and then disposing of it in 30 years, you are doing incremental change every three to four years.

We know fundamentally that single-use military equipment becomes obsolete in about eight years because adversaries figure out how to defeat it. We want to move to a faster cycle, because that’s really the essence of the Western way of war – technological overmatch. We’re going to do that through technology injections that are a bit cheaper and don’t require the authority levels that we go through with full project management. This is a concept that was developed in close collaboration with Public Service and Procurement Canada and Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada.

CG84 M2-M3-M4
Iron sights, spotting scope, Aimpoint.
HEAT, HE, Smk, Ill, Tandem, HEDP, Canister, Guided, Confined Space....

What better example of continuous improvement and iterative development
 
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I am not sure how his outlook on the CG84 M4 meshes with these comments of his:



CG84 M2-M3-M4
Iron sights, spotting scope, Aimpoint.
HEAT, HE, Smk, Ill, Tandem, HEDP, Canister, Guided, Confined Space....

What better example of continuous improvement and iterative development
Thst Requires a modicum of effort though.
 
No but we have - the CAF and GoC that is - have other more urgent priorities. Readiness is not one of them, nor is properly equipping the military.
Super cheap daycare for everybody's kids, and free dental care for kids too? Donating a ton of money to Ukraine to keep fighting a war we won't allow peace talks for?

Bah...I remember now...sole sourcing MASSIVE government contracts to charities that just so happen to employ my mom and brother. Duh!! (Silly me...one of those days)


Yeah, fuck that organization I keep committing to various missions around the world, and that I have to call every summer for help...who needs them? All they do is whine whine whine...

I said I'd buy them the best damn canoes in the market, and I will one day!!



...ungrateful sons of...
 
I get it but I still think it is one of the STUPIDEST regulations ever made. If you have female parts then you use the female washroom and if you have male parts you use the male washroom.
This GoC is one of the silliest governments ever.


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From what I hear, tampons are great at soaking up nosebleeds.

Just sayin’.
 
Super cheap daycare for everybody's kids, and free dental care for kids too? Donating a ton of money to Ukraine to keep fighting a war we won't allow peace talks for?
Don’t tell me you’re falling for that Russian propaganda crap. Kinda hard to have “peace talks” with a country bent on your destruction and submission as a people. The vast majority of that aid is going to American companies to pay American workers to buy new equipment for the US Armed Forces.

You’re better than this.
 
Snowbirds, Navy Gun Run, Ceremonial Guard... All count as defence expenditures.
Sure, so the OP is correct.

I'd re-fund Class A bands before putting tampons in men's bathrooms. "This thing must be everywhere" is just another way of piling up impractical unnecessary costs. It's the kind of stupidity only those who play with other peoples' money without consequence can entertain.
 
Don’t tell me you’re falling for that Russian propaganda crap. Kinda hard to have “peace talks” with a country bent on your destruction and submission as a people. The vast majority of that aid is going to American companies to pay American workers to buy new equipment for the US Armed Forces.

You’re better than this.
And out of pure financial self interest... what's cheaper? Funding and equipping the Ukrainians or dealing with Czar Vlad taking more bites out of Western-aligned non-NATO countries with (likely) a viciously bloody insurgency and massive displaced population in Ukraine? Let alone the possibility Putin decides NATO countries can be nibbled at and triggers Article 5.
 
Sure, so the OP is correct.

I'd re-fund Class A bands before putting tampons in men's bathrooms. "This thing must be everywhere" is just another way of piling up impractical unnecessary costs. It's the kind of stupidity only those who play with other peoples' money without consequence can entertain.
That assumes that an individual department can ignore pan-GoC directives without consequence.

I’m sure speechwriters would love to not include a French part in speeches, but…
 
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