Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[YZT580]

Sounds like trying to work in many parts in Western Canada when oil patch booms were going on. High school students working part time making more than their teacher was not uncommon. And god forbid you try to staff a restaurant or coffee shop as you sometimes hired people for hours before they quit for higher paying jobs being offered...and it's even more fun when you're a franchise and not allowed to raise your rates.

While there's many things I hate about boom times or tying to work under those communities there is one key advantage....there is generally more work than people and folks will be less concerned about credential creep and more about effort given. Many folks got some key training and/or experience under the booms that normally would have been under-educated, non-optimal candidates and have worked into successful professional/well paying roles. Of course just as likely folks rode the good times assuming it would never end and crashed with nothing...

Point it when employers are actively hiring at good wages...workers show up from all over the country. But you can't relocate your family for $20/hr especially if there's no guarantee of long term work. $40/hr...people are kicking down your door especially if you're willing to train and/or offer some assistance in temporary housing.

But almost every TFW I know - all in the restaurant business - has a story of working more hours than getting paid, large employee deductions, and no control over schedule or role to work...because if they object their fired and forced to return home. It's as bad as the unpaid "internship" I hear stories of mostly in the US in some sectors where basically the employer has cheap, replaceable, and most importantly fully controlled staff. And no incentive to change practices as they hold all the cards.

Agriculture is ironically probably the one I hear the best about with many taking over local farms back home after years/decades of being an active part of the farm. Hear the stories just dont' know anyone working as a TFW in the agriculture industry.

I know lots of them. In fact we have residences for close to one hundred within eyesight of our back yard. They arrive in Feb/March and leave just before Christmas. I also know first hand the efforts that the farm management put into trying to hire students and Canadians. Staff requirements for 10 required hiring almost 30 to finally fill the positions. Lately they don't even apply yet its a guaranteed 800 to 1000 per week from mi-June until school starts again and if you work well you have a job for your entire school career.

 

[Eaglelord17]

Don’t forget the other issue with TFWs is how exploitable they are. Lots of employers like them because they can work them harder in worse conditions often in violation of the law and the TFW is very unlikely to do anything about it due to their shaky status.

There is so much wrong with the whole program it isn’t even funny.

 

[dapaterson]

In Ontario drivers need to do a retest once they're 80 and every 2 years after. Dropping that age to 65 would certainly save lives.

In Ontario visitors can drive for up to 3 months on an international drivers license, which doesnt require a road test.

Theres cases of truck drivers using bribery and forged documents to get their Canadian license. Sounds very similar to our college diploma mills.

Retest after a license suspension.

After six demerits, revert to G2.

Easy ways to improve safety.

 

[QV]

Michael Taube: The polls are in — Carney’s honeymoon is coming to an end

Conservatives led the Liberals in Abacus Data's latest release, a sign that Canadians are coming to realize Carney isn't their saviour

nationalpost.com

Has the elbows up honeymoon ended this fast?

 

[Halifax Tar]

Retest after a license suspension.

After six demerits, revert to G2.

Easy ways to improve safety.

Why not just revoke driving privileges at 80 and let that demographic claim day to day TN costs on their taxes ?

 

[Haggis]

A bunch I know are TFWs because my kids and their friends work with them. They have outright stated they are TFWs.

Clarify PR?

Permanent Resident. Different from a TFW. A PR is a foreign national who has been granted permission to live and work in a country without being a citizen. While holding many rights of a natural born citizen, they remain citizens of another country and have specific residency requirements to maintain their status. In Canada, they must be physically present for a cumulative 730 days within a five year period or they lose their PR status.

TFWs are in Canada for a fixed period and must leave when their work permit expires, unless they are granted an extension. They have far less rights than PRs when it comes to accessing social programs.

On a related note, here is an interesting GoC website that lists employers who have been found to be non-compliant with the TFW program.

 

[ArmyRick]

OK, I know what a permanent resident is, I just never heard people refer to them as PRs. The people I know through my sons work are TFWs.

 

[Jarnhamar]

There's around 50,000 international students in Canada who never showed up "to class". Doesn't seem to be an active enforcement to track them down and remove them either.

 

[ArmyRick]

interesting GoC website that lists employers who have been found to be non-compliant with the TFW program.

I almost want to tip off Mark carney, an easy pick up in the polls is to kybosh this programs less the legacy the stuff.

 

[Czech_pivo]

On a potentially happier side.

LNG Developer Announces $15B Project Off Newfoundland, Says Carney Policy Changes Made It Happen

St. John’s-based Fermeuse Energy Ltd. has unveiled plans for a new $15-billion liquefied natural gas (LNG) project off the coast of Newfoundland, and the company’s CEO says the announcement would never have happened without policy changes introduced by Prime Minister Mark Carney.

www.theenergymix.com

St. John’s-based Fermeuse Energy Ltd. has unveiled plans for a new $15-billion liquefied natural gas (LNG) project off the coast of Newfoundland, and the company’s CEO says the announcement would never have happened without policy changes introduced by Prime Minister Mark Carney.

 

[brihard]

On a potentially happier side.

LNG Developer Announces $15B Project Off Newfoundland, Says Carney Policy Changes Made It Happen

St. John’s-based Fermeuse Energy Ltd. has unveiled plans for a new $15-billion liquefied natural gas (LNG) project off the coast of Newfoundland, and the company’s CEO says the announcement would never have happened without policy changes introduced by Prime Minister Mark Carney.

www.theenergymix.com

St. John’s-based Fermeuse Energy Ltd. has unveiled plans for a new $15-billion liquefied natural gas (LNG) project off the coast of Newfoundland, and the company’s CEO says the announcement would never have happened without policy changes introduced by Prime Minister Mark Carney.

Nice! Even if cross-country pipelines face headwinds, if you can drill it and liquefy it right on the same (east) coast to then ship abroad, there’s that need obviated.

 

[mariomike]

Regarding our transportation system. People from all over the spectrum of driving ability use it.

Even if you yourself happen to be a 99th percentile driver, you're sharing the system with the other 99%.

I don't mind sharing the system with the full spectrum of humanity, I just prefer it on a sidewalk, or on rails.

 

[ArmyRick]

Well said, Ben, well said. Never even knew he had a podcast until two days ago

 

[CBH99]

Why are these kids allowed to work off campus?

My daughter is now attending Uni in the US on a soccer scholarship. The only employment that she could have in the US would be on-campus and limited to 20hrs, and the school must approve of the work and ensure that no US citizen or permanent resident is displaced because of the job. For her to be able to work 'off-campus', she would have to have employment directly linked to her student curriculum - such as an internship - this would require BOTH the approval/sign off of an official at the school's foreign student office and a US immigration official.

Compare that to what we have - ability straight away to work off campus - at ANY type of job - for 24hrs a week, with the ability to get hire over and before a Canadian citizen or permanent resident.

So, yes, I'm 100% for reducing the number of hours an International student can work in Canada, the type of work that they can do (must be directly related to their school programme) and NO Canadian citizen or perm resident can lose their job or be pass over for the international student.

"Oh my goodness!! That is like, soooooooo MAGA..."


Common sense stuff mate, ain't it?

 

[PPCLI Guy]

So, yes, I'm 100% for reducing the number of hours an International student can work in Canada, the type of work that they can do (must be directly related to their school programme) and NO Canadian citizen or perm resident can lose their job or be pass over for the international student.

Absolutely agree.

 

[dapaterson]

Why not just revoke driving privileges at 80 and let that demographic claim day to day TN costs on their taxes ?

I'm not talking about 80+.

I'm saying if you're 30 and get 6 demerits, you revert to G2.

If you're a stunt driver and get a week long suspension, you have to retest.


Not age - assholes.

 

[Navy_Pete]

I'm not talking about 80+.

I'm saying if you're 30 and get 6 demerits, you revert to G2.

If you're a stunt driver and get a week long suspension, you have to retest.


Not age - assholes.

Why limit this to driving licences?

So many people would get demoted if the 'demote an asshole' standard was applied. Possibly including me sometimes, I guess.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Why limit this to driving licences?

So many people would get demoted if the 'demote an asshole' standard was applied. Possibly including me sometimes, I guess.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I'm not talking about 80+.

I'm saying if you're 30 and get 6 demerits, you revert to G2.

If you're a stunt driver and get a week long suspension, you have to retest.


Not age - assholes.

Why not to both ?

Are you making a personal insult towards me or did I miss something?

 

[Navy_Pete]

lol, only sometimes! Getting a diagnoses as an adult for being on the spectrum did help, realized that other people have built in filters I may be lacking. Usually build in an internal 'pause 2 3' now but that breaks down when tired/burnout (so frequently with the CAF I guess). Still probably blissfully unaware sometimes, so some of it is unintentional. Sometimes it's really the appropriate response though, just maybe not a good 'default setting'.

I think more promotions would put me in the start of the Peter Principle zone though, as it would be almost all people-ing, but all options for future demotion do seem to lead to a potential relase, so a reasonable off ramp option that doesn't get you fired into the sun would be a nice happy medium.

As an aside, for obvious reasons, really ignore me that 'The Peter Principle', 'petering out' and 'Robbing Peter to pay Paul' are all common expressions.