Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[CBH99]

There is a lot to criticize but she does have some redeeming qualities.

That's fair

 

[Jarnhamar]

She already clearly said the only way she would do it would be still as under the Green Party banner, but she may also go out of her way to try and be even handed in that role to prove she's independent.

Do speakers need to be accepted by all parties?

In this election she purposefully didn't run some candidates (apparently?) to push strategic voting against the Conservatives. That's next level bias IMO.

 

[Lumber]

In this election she purposefully didn't run some candidates (apparently?) to push strategic voting against the Conservatives. That's next level bias IMO.

Based.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Based.

That went over my head sorry. What do you mean?

 

[PuckChaser]

Do speakers need to be accepted by all parties?

In this election she purposefully didn't run some candidates (apparently?) to push strategic voting against the Conservatives. That's next level bias IMO.

And then whined when her party didn't meet 2 of the 3 debate criteria...

 

[Remius]

Do speakers need to be accepted by all parties?

No. They just need to receive 50% of the vote in the house.

In this election she purposefully didn't run some candidates (apparently?) to push strategic voting against the Conservatives. That's next level bias IMO.

All parties run and do things in elections that are based on bias.

 

[Underway]

That went over my head sorry. What do you mean?

Slang to mean "very true" or "true to yourself". All the kids are saying it. Get hip with the new jive.

 

[Remius]

Slang to mean "very true" or "true to yourself". All the kids are saying it. Get hip with the new jive.

Groovy.

 

[dapaterson]

Slang to mean "very true" or "true to yourself". All the kids are saying it. Get hip with the new jive.

 

[QV]

I think she'd actually be a pretty good Speaker, as she really knows Parliamentary rules, and has really nothing to lose by enforcing them even handedly.

Even handedly? Does her party not running candidates in ridings that would take votes from the LPC suggest she'd be even handed?

 

[MilEME09]

HM King Charles has been invited to open parliament

https://twitter.com/x/status/1918308848542347720

 

[Quirky]

Thats assuming AB can even negotiate its exit with Canada and FN, treaty 6,7, and 8, the Blackfoot Confederacy have all said not happening. Without treaty 7 and the blackfoot, southern AB stays with Canada, without treaty 8 territory northern AB, including the oil sands stays as well.

I would simply ignore the treaties, probably not a practical, but I would open with that. The treaties are a pointless relic from a bygone era. It would be between a new county that didn't sign them and a group of people that weren't a nation state in any way that is functional. The answer is to just give the reservation land to the people who live there and have lived there and then turn it into privately held land like any other in the new country. People ignore aboriginal land titles because they don't exist, it's based on stories and tales.

The issue is they will still have their hands out for free money from whoever is in charge. When they don’t get it they’ll block roads with flaming tires and other crap.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Thanks - I am well-versed in all of that and do a risk calculation on likelihood of verisimilitude - an AI summary of the underlying official sources referenced in that summary, or the summary provided in a blog, discussion forum etc by a single human with unknowable biases..

After seeing that, I'm not sure AIs can do arithmetic or confident that they can correlate figures and statements accurately.

A passing familiarity with the typical bottom line numbers of the federal government is enough to quickly assess the sanity of the information.

 

[PPCLI Guy]

After seeing that, I'm not sure AIs can do arithmetic or confident that they can correlate figures and statements accurately.

A passing familiarity with the typical bottom line numbers of the federal government is enough to quickly assess the sanity of the information.

Can you help me find an authoritative source? I seem to have exceeded my google-fu capability...

I am trying to understand the problem set, rather than make any specific point

 

[The Bread Guy]

Even handedly? Does her party not running candidates in ridings that would take votes from the LPC suggest she'd be even handed?

That would make her different from any other MP in the House that could be considered how, exactly?

 

[MilEME09]

I would simply ignore the treaties, probably not a practical, but I would open with that. The treaties are a pointless relic from a bygone era. It would be between a new county that didn't sign them and a group of people that weren't a nation state in any way that is functional. The answer is to just give the reservation land to the people who live there and have lived there and then turn it into privately held land like any other in the new country. People ignore aboriginal land titles because they don't exist, it's based on stories and tales.

The issue is they will still have their hands out for free money from whoever is in charge. When they don’t get it they’ll block roads with flaming tires and other crap.

ignoring the treaties wouldn't be possible, the legal framework set up means if they ignore it, they wouldn't likely find the separation declared invalid. On your comment of money, Canada as a whole can offer more then an independent AB ever could.

 

[Czech_pivo]

HM King Charles has been invited to open parliament

https://twitter.com/x/status/1918308848542347720

Good - 100% in favour of this.

 

[IKnowNothing]

If there was a period of time, 6 months - 1 year, during which a campaign educating Albertans and FNs what this would mean for them, including details and options presented by the US or pure independent secessionists which address the chief concerns, I guess support could reach 60% or higher for leaving one way or another.
managed/sold a certain way, I suspect the chances it succeeds is far from zero. And this should scare the crap out of the RoC.

That would likely depend entirely on whether the "education" was grounded and credible, or a rose tinted snow job analogous to the APP propaganda.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Can you help me find an authoritative source? I seem to have exceeded my google-fu capability...

I am trying to understand the problem set, rather than make any specific point

Fiscal Reference Tables. Good for big picture bottom-line numbers. Published each fall for previous year. Comparison of the documents across years will show that adjustments are often made to previous years' figures as time passes.

StatsCan Income Statistics. I occasionally use the breakdowns by tax bracket to understand "who" is paying "what". If you have a lot of patience, I think you could stitch together a by-province view from the by-federal-district, but the spreadsheet would be large.

The Library of Parliament report I linked above. Good for visualizing relative figures. I found one for each of 2018 and 2020. There are a lot of reports on the main menu page; best way in is to choose good search terms and use a web search engine.

All of the canonical (government) data (original or - mostly - synthesized) necessarily lags a year or more behind. Obviously post hoc adjustments occur to some things. Finding figures for specific questions is difficult. Usually I end up with some third party think tank's report, but familiarity with the big picture numbers makes it a lot easier to apply a sniff test to decide whether claims are plausible or ridiculous.

 

[QV]

That would likely depend entirely on whether the "education" was grounded and credible, or a rose tinted snow job analogous to the APP propaganda.

Of course.

I've heard some of the chief concerns being the maintenance of "free healthcare" and pensions, tax implications... and generally from the older generation. These are easily addressed. The "not American" identity is largely a central and eastern Canada sentiment.

Interesting that being Canadian hasn't been top of the list of concerns, anecdotally... For me this hits particularly hard especially after almost three decades of full-time service to my country. I guess a decade of "post national state" nonsense who have no core values and being labelled as a racist misogynist country by the PM can have a detrimental impact on national pride. Salt the wound with policy overtly intending to damage economic interests... it's almost like he intended for this outcome. Take Alberta and Sask out of the HoC and the LPC would never lose an election every again.