Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[Altair]

Well, he's already 0-2 when it comes to getting elected before he became NDP leader.

3rd time is the charm?

Heather McPherson would have been such a better choice. She's already in parliament and supports pipelines. Would have gone a long way to getting the NDP fighting for those blue collar votes again.

Instead they get the radical who has no way to get into parliament, so all he can do is the news circuit until the MSM gets bored of him.

 

[brihard]

I think this stops the bleeding for the NDP, depending on how angry Heather McPherson is.

But ya, rump party status.

I mean, exsanguination does eventually stop bleeding…

 

[Altair]

I mean, exsanguination does eventually stop bleeding…

lol

In all seriousness, unless the NDP turns thing around by 2029, that might be what kills off the party.

Canada turns into a 2 1/2 party state.

Which is all sorts of bad.

One, the CPC might struggle if all the center and left vote is concentrated in the LPC.

Two, as we see in the USA, political polarization when there are only 2 parties gets toxic real fast.

And as much as I have a problem with the current version of the CPC I don't want them shut out of governance because of the 60/40 split. That's not going to be healthy.

 

[ArmyRick]

lol

In all seriousness, unless the NDP turns thing around by 2029, that might be what kills off the party.

Canada turns into a 2 1/2 party state.

Which is all sorts of bad.

One, the CPC might struggle if all the center and left vote is concentrated in the LPC.

Two, as we see in the USA, political polarization when there are only 2 parties gets toxic real fast.

And as much as I have a problem with the current version of the CPC I don't want them shut out of governance because of the 60/40 split. That's not going to be healthy.

Your forgetting the Bloc can shrink or grow massively, usually depending on the government of the day.

If the LPC do something that Quebec is not happy with, watch the Bloc grow.

Terrebonne was interesting, once again neck in neck race.

 

[Altair]

Your forgetting the Bloc can shrink or grow massively, usually depending on the government of the day.

If the LPC do something that Quebec is not happy with, watch the Bloc grow.

Terrebonne was interesting, once again neck in neck race.

they are the 1/2 in the 2 1/2

 

[ArmyRick]

they are the 1/2 in the 2 1/2

They once had 54 seats in parliament, so that gets way past the .5 and becomes a legit third party or opposition

 

[Altair]

They once had 54 seats in parliament, so that gets way past the .5 and becomes a legit third party or opposition

Maybe?

I suppose?

I can only give so much personal weight to a party that only runs in one province, doesn't care about the rest of the nation outside that province and can win a maximum of 78 seats out of 343

 

[Brad Sallows]

One, the CPC might struggle if all the center and left vote is concentrated in the LPC.

I don't share that worry. If the progressive left in Canada really has nowhere to go except the LPC, I expect them to pull the LPC left the same way the progressive left has pulled the Democratic party left in the US. Much of the former centre will slip over to the CPC. The LPC will become less moderate, and the CPC more so.

 

[Altair]

I don't share that worry. If the progressive left in Canada really has nowhere to go except the LPC, I expect them to pull the LPC left the same way the progressive left has pulled the Democratic party left in the US. Much of the former centre will slip over to the CPC. The LPC will become less moderate, and the CPC more so.

That doesn't happen overnight.

That's sacrificing what, 2029, 2033? We looking at nearly 18 years of LPC rule?

 

[Brad Sallows]

That doesn't happen overnight.

That's sacrificing what, 2029, 2033? We looking at nearly 18 years of LPC rule?

It'd happen pretty quickly once it starts, but it doesn't start until the NDP gives up federally even though it's looking like some NDP voters have already made their moves (leaving what looks like a rump of the most left-leaning people, which is why they chose someone like Lewis). A major reason the progressive left has been able to pull the Democratic party left is because that faction includes a lot of people with platforms: entertainers, academics, media personalities. Most of the people who make the time for a lot of activism and exhortation are still in the NDP. If they move, their influence will be outsize compared to their numbers and they will exercise it immediately, energetically, and frequently.