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By that metric they also rejected Carney...
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Need I point out that one of them won their seat and the other - the supposedly strong established incumbent - was voted out and did not? There’s simply no getting around that fact.
Carney was not rejected by voters. He was elected by them.
I was thinking big words from a guy who voted against a private member’s bill to stop floor crossing.
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50-50 call where to put this, so putting it in the "what's it mean for government?" thread.
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Canada will ‘never participate’ in Iran offensive, Carney says
Prime Minister Mark Carney told MPs in the House of Commons Tuesday that Canada is not involved in the U.S.-Israeli war on Iran and “will never participate in it.”
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Canada will 'never participate' in Iran offensive, Carney says
OTTAWA — Prime Minister Mark Carney told MPs in the House of Commons Tuesday that Canada is not involved in the U.S.-Israeli war on Iran and "will never participate in it.
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? Carney won his seat, no?
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Then he was subsequently elected in a safe riding, like the riding Carney won.
I'm not interested int he partisan pissing contest, Carney didn't get a majority and neither did Poilievre, ergo both were "rejected" by the electorate write large.
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50-50 call where to put this, so putting it in the "what's it mean for government?" thread.
Canada will ‘never participate’ in Iran offensive, Carney says
Prime Minister Mark Carney told MPs in the House of Commons Tuesday that Canada is not involved in the U.S.-Israeli war on Iran and “will never participate in it.”Canada will 'never participate' in Iran offensive, Carney says
OTTAWA — Prime Minister Mark Carney told MPs in the House of Commons Tuesday that Canada is not involved in the U.S.-Israeli war on Iran and "will never participate in it.
Speaking in absolutes. Ballsy.
You have a weird notion of ‘rejected’ if you think it can lead to a seat in Parliament.
Yes, Poilievre absolutely succesfully returned to the House when he gave himself the mulligan.
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You're intentionally ignoring my point to further your partisan point. We get it, you dislike PP.
As I said, neither got a majority, so both were "rejected" by the Canadian electorate. That was my point.
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I sorta thought "never say never" when I spotted that, too.
Another member said Poilievre was rejected by voters. He was. His riding of many years voted him out. You chose to try to shift that to meaning anything less than an absolute majority of votes is being ‘rejected’. That, of course, is silly.
I do dislike Poilievre, but that’s irrelevant. What matters more to my opinion is that he is largely ineffective.. Canada needs a better and more credible opposition than he can provide. I would like to have a viable option to vote Conservative again. He was what CPC needed to defeat Trudeau; Canada needed Trudeau gone. With that achieved he is no longer the right tool in the toolbox. He had the chance to be and has demonstrated that he is not.
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As if PM Mark "values" Carney didn't have a LPC manufactured mulligan into the PM chair...
“Offensive” is doing the lifting there. The wording leaves the door open for involvement that’s defensive in nature. Not that I’d argue we have much to offer unless we maybe send a six pack to shoot down drones… Which might be good practice? I don’t know if we have any other relevant capabilities at present.
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Your point is just a silly one.
43.8 % of the electors in 2025 chose the LPC. 41.3% chose the CPC.
To say that not winning a majority in a multi-party system equals rejection by the electorate is nonsense. To say that there was a narrow gap between those two parties but that it slightly favoured the LPC is accurate.
If you want to look at rejection then maybe you should look at the Bloc and the NDP who were chosen by only 6.3% each.
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I am sure the Canadian public will be accepting of that nuance and LPC wordsmithing should it arise.
I don’t imagine it’s an option on deck right now. Maybe if the situation developed to the point where a multinational coalition provided security to shipping in the strait or something. There would be an argument to be made there for justifiable involvement.
Not saying I think it’s likely. He’s just been careful not to rule it out.
ineffective, no/ We have the most effective opposition that we have had in decades. Carney has been forced to roll back several of his major issues i.e. carbon tax, oil development to mention two that were part of Pierre's platform. He is if nothing else, an opportunist but, to reply to Mileme09 do I expect them to fail, yes but if they don't we could quite conceivably have the best government that we have had at least since the Harper majority and that is a great outcome.
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I somehow doubt Carney will magically change tune just because he got a majority. His policies strike me less about concessions, and more about an actual goal of the economic success of the nation. A Majority will likely fast strike some of this, The key date though will be August 2027, thats the two year mark since the MPO officially started work. If they haven't approved a project by then to start construction, they will be in trouble.
He forced a few of the concessions you would expect in a minority government, yes. He has also turned a minority government into a functional and very soon a true majority, three of those seats coming from his own caucus. So maybe you’re handing out credit pretty freely there.
We’ll see how effective he is against a majority, particularly when he loses the ability to jam things up in committee like the tax cut bill.
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To say having 41.3% of the votes for his party, 2.5% less that the grand victor, is a rejection is equally ridiculous.Your point is just a silly one.
43.8 % of the electors in 2025 chose the LPC. 41.3% chose the CPC.
To say that not winning a majority in a multi-party system equals rejection by the electorate is nonsense. To say that there was a narrow gap between those two parties but that it slightly favoured the LPC is accurate.
If you want to look at rejection then maybe you should look at the Bloc and the NDP who were chosen by only 6.3% each.
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If MP floor crossings bring about a majority we ought to run another election.
Really hammer home the "I've talked to ny constituents " proof that this is what the people want.
Price of the election is just a rounding error.
Really hammer home the "I've talked to ny constituents " proof that this is what the people want.
Price of the election is just a rounding error.
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