Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[Halifax Tar]

Bringing it back to politics; Poilievre bad is one plausible reason, but the multitude of other reasons seemed purposefully ignored.

Poilievre isn't bad. He's the impetus for a lot of what Carney and the LPC have done. He should be applauded for his work, although bias wont let some here do that, his face is too punchable apparently.

The game changed and this is a new version he is not great at. He needs to step aside and let the party find its new leader.

Also the Yankees swept Boston last night, in Fenway. Its a good day

 

[ytz]

Yet nobody says this at the provincial level where premiers are making the provinces into their own personal little fiefdoms.

As an Ontarian, I feel this.....

 

[Czech_pivo]

Poilievre isn't bad. He's the impetus for a lot of what Carney and the LPC have done. He should be applauded for his work, although bias wont let some here do that, his face is too punchable apparently.

The game changed and this is a new version he is not great at. He needs to step aside and let the party find its new leader.

Also the Yankees swept Boston last night, in Fenway. Its a good day

If your a Yankees fan, we can never be close friends., just saying….

 

[Halifax Tar]

If your a Yankees fan, we can never be close friends., just saying….

You might be surprised how ok with that I am.

 

[Czech_pivo]

You might be surprised how ok with that I am.

Now you've hurt my feelings.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Now you've hurt my feelings.

Again, you might be surprised how ok with that I am.

 

[Eaglelord17]

Senate composition. While this may not last, it's certainly better than the system of old.

You mean the ‘independents’ who vote Liberal on every topic? I wouldn’t say it is better than the previous system, I would say it is side by side with it.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

As an Ontarian, I feel this.....

Aaahhh! Just go fly a ki... Bombardier.

 

[ytz]

You mean the ‘independents’ who vote Liberal on every topic?

They were literally Liberals who had their memberships cancelled when the LPC wanted to push the idea of Senate reform or an independent Senate.

If you want non-partisan Senators, you'll need to create a non-partisan appointment process.

 

[Eaglelord17]

They were literally Liberals who had their memberships cancelled when the LPC wanted to push the idea of Senate reform or an independent Senate.

If you want non-partisan Senators, you'll need to create a non-partisan appointment process.

Some of them. Some of them were appointed after the LPC no longer allowed senate members to be LPC, but they all still vote that way.

Lots of ways to do senate reform, the question is whether the juice is worth the squeeze.

 

[Navy_Pete]

Poilievre isn't bad. He's the impetus for a lot of what Carney and the LPC have done. He should be applauded for his work, although bias wont let some here do that, his face is too punchable apparently.

The game changed and this is a new version he is not great at. He needs to step aside and let the party find its new leader.

Also the Yankees swept Boston last night, in Fenway. Its a good day

PPs own biases won't even let him take credit for it or work with them on points where there is common ground, he's just stuck in inherently oppositional mode, and just complains they don't go far enough, or someone did it wrong, when they basically implemented a CPC proposal.

It would be nice for them to get someone else, but while Carney is there doing a lot of actual conservative things like an old school Tory, and dragging the LPC along for the ride, they are getting redundant, outside of some very vocal portions of the party.

 

[ArmyRick]

he's just stuck in inherently oppositional mode, and just complains they don't go far enough, or someone did it wrong, when they basically implemented a CPC proposal

You mean he did his job as leader of the OPPOSITION? Wow.

He has brought it up that the Liberals have stolen his ideas but don't implement them to the full extent.

Consumer carbon tax for example. Its not gone, just zero rated and at the stroke of a pen, can come right back. Pierre wanted it gone as in would need a new bill to bring it back.

 

[Altair]

You mean he did his job as leader of the OPPOSITION? Wow.

He has brought it up that the Liberals have stolen his ideas but don't implement them to the full extent.

Consumer carbon tax for example. Its not gone, just zero rated and at the stroke of a pen, can come right back. Pierre wanted it gone as in would need a new bill to bring it back.

Legislation to make life more affordable receives Royal Assent - Canada.ca

Bill C-4, the Making Life More Affordable for Canadians Act, today received Royal Assent. This legislation brings key affordability measures into law, which will save Canadians hundreds of dollars each year.

www.canada.ca

• Permanently removing the federal consumer fuel charge from legislation: Canada’s new government cancelled the consumer fuel charge—directly allowing Canadians to save money from the price they pay at the pump. The government also removed the requirement for provinces and territories to have a consumer-facing carbon price as of April 1, 2025. These actions have reduced gasoline prices in most provinces and territories by up to 18¢/L in comparison to 2024-2025, lowering inflation. Bill C-4 will give Canadian consumers and businesses certainty that the consumer carbon price is being permanently removed by eliminating it from federal legislation.

Sigh...

 

[ArmyRick]

Deleted.

 

[Altair]

You think got a burn there. You don't.

The CONSUMER carbon tax is still there. Sigh yourself. Another knee jerk reaction.

• Permanently removing the federal consumer fuel charge from legislation: Canada’s new government cancelled the consumer fuel charge—directly allowing Canadians to save money from the price they pay at the pump. The government also removed the requirement for provinces and territories to have a consumer-facing carbon price as of April 1, 2025. These actions have reduced gasoline prices in most provinces and territories by up to 18¢/L in comparison to 2024-2025, lowering inflation. Bill C-4 will give Canadian consumers and businesses certainty that the consumer carbon price is being permanently removed by eliminating it from federal legislation.

Sigh x2

 

[Altair]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/government-to-cut-consumer-carbon-tax-out-of-law-1.7545352#:~:text=All%20remaining%20provisions%20are%20to%20be%20repealed,rely%20on%20existing%20rules%2C%22%20the%20document%20says.

The federal government moved on Tuesday to purge consumer carbon pricing from law, effectively putting an end to what was once the keystone of the Liberals' climate policy.

In a notice of motion tabled in the House of Commons, the government signalled it intends to repeal the law after the government used regulations to end the consumer carbon price in March. That move was Mark Carney's first official act after becoming prime minister.

Sigh x 3

 

[ArmyRick]

Before you rush to celebrate one on one issue (which took a full year to repeal that law that they implemented in the first place), you still have a plethora of other issues to tackle
-Energy
-Resource development
-TRADE DEAL with USA and Mexico
-Crime
-Immigration
-F35 decision (WAY over due)
-The federal portion of housing development (Way under the numbers he promised last year)

Explain away

 

[Altair]

Before you rush to celebrate one on one issue (which took a full year to repeal that law that they implemented in the first place), you still have a plethora of other issues to tackle
-Energy
-Resource development
-TRADE DEAL with USA and Mexico
-Crime
-Immigration
-F35 decision (WAY over due)
-The federal portion of housing development (Way under the numbers he promised last year)

Explain away

No Lucy.

 

[ArmyRick]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/government-to-cut-consumer-carbon-tax-out-of-law-1.7545352#:~:text=All%20remaining%20provisions%20are%20to%20be%20repealed,rely%20on%20existing%20rules%2C%22%20the%20document%20says.

Sigh x 3

And lets not forget whose STUPID law it was in the first place.

 

[Altair]

And lets not forget whose STUPID law it was in the first place.

I'm just glad i can clear up disinformation.