Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[CBH99]

MP has funding in her riding cut.
MP begs minister for Federal Economic Development Agency for money.
Minister says I can get you funding for your riding, but you have to cross the floor.

So the minister would only approve FEDA money for Liberal constituencies, and not Conservative?

That's very much what it sounds like...


Sounds illegal?? Or is this just that shady grey area the Liberals can't seem to help but operate in?

 

[Jarnhamar]

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So the minister would only approve FEDA money for Liberal constituencies, and not Conservative?

Sure looks like way.

The MP recounts in the video how she never dreamed that the Liberals, a government that she admits she has said “terrible things about” for the past decade would ever take her — until she had a conversation with Solomon.
As the minister responsible for the Federal Economic Development Agency for Southern Ontario, a region Gladu represents, she says she had approached Solomon on a “begging mission” to restore funding that she says had been cut in her riding.
“And he said, ‘Sure, when are you coming over,'” recalled Gladu.

Cross the floor - get money back that was cut.

Sounds super ethical.

 

[daftandbarmy]

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Sure looks like way.



Cross the floor - get money back that was cut.

Sounds super ethical.

 

[Halifax Tar]

And now we have a little more of the why from Gladu. Interestingly, the recent firearms bans was one of the topics of their conversation.

Floor-crosser Marilyn Gladu reveals her conversation with Carney and the 'toxic environment' among Conservatives

"I was ready to leave the Conservative party, because, like I said, it was a very toxic environment, I found," Gladu said.

nationalpost.com

Archive

Full interview here

 

[The Bread Guy]

In case you want to geek out in detail about "urban" vs. "rural" in Canada, this Library of Parliament pub says, basically, "rural Canada" isn't one unitary thing, with no single agreed-on definition, warning that lumping together "rural," "remote," and "northern" (with the three overlapping in some ways) can obscure different realities people are living in those places.

Executive Summary - Urban and Rural regions in Canada: Evolving Definitions and Population Insights - HillNotes

Data on urban and rural areas in Canada have been collected since the first census in 1871. For successive censuses, Canada was largely characterized as a predominantly rural country with a widely dispersed population and an economy centred on rural industries. During this period, regions were...

hillnotes.ca

Urban and Rural regions in Canada: Evolving Definitions and Population Insights

Sorry it wasn't less complicated, folks

 

[HavokFour]

So, still the same government?

The sources say Guilbeault is considering remaining as an MP, but sitting as an Independent, and likely would not run in the next election.

Guilbeault could quit caucus as soon as this week, government sources tell CTV News

Former environment and climate change minister Steven Guilbeault is considering resigning from the Liberal Party caucus over his concerns about climate policy, four sources in the federal government tell CTV News.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[Altair]

So, still the same government?

Guilbeault could quit caucus as soon as this week, government sources tell CTV News

Former environment and climate change minister Steven Guilbeault is considering resigning from the Liberal Party caucus over his concerns about climate policy, four sources in the federal government tell CTV News.

www.ctvnews.ca

Addition by subtraction afaic

 

[Navy_Pete]

So, still the same government?

Guilbeault could quit caucus as soon as this week, government sources tell CTV News

Former environment and climate change minister Steven Guilbeault is considering resigning from the Liberal Party caucus over his concerns about climate policy, four sources in the federal government tell CTV News.

www.ctvnews.ca

Good riddance, he was always an outlier, even if he was in the Green party. I think the environment is obviously hugely important, but he was far too dogmatic and ignored practical realities. They can eliminate all ICEs tomorrow, and the solutions will still completely rely on petrochemicals, so oil will keep flowing.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Good riddance, he was always an outlier, even if he was in the Green party. I think the environment is obviously hugely important, but he was far too dogmatic and ignored practical realities. They can eliminate all ICEs tomorrow, and the solutions will still completely rely on petrochemicals, so oil will keep flowing.

He belongs on a Green Peace boat, strapped to the bow, somewhere off the coast of Japan harassing the Japanese whaling fleet.

 

[YZT580]

Good riddance, he was always an outlier, even if he was in the Green party. I think the environment is obviously hugely important, but he was far too dogmatic and ignored practical realities. They can eliminate all ICEs tomorrow, and the solutions will still completely rely on petrochemicals, so oil will keep flowing.

The environment is important yes and we should and must do what we can to clean up harmful gases which, contrary to popular belief does not include CO2. By now everyone has read that the forecast devastating increase in carbon levels isn't going to happen so why are we still going ahead with our self-imposed immolation of our economy yes Carney I am referring to your ridiculous requirement for a carbon capture facility and the continued taxes on a natural gas in our atmosphere. Here is what the Science Affairs correspondent for Time Mag. Brien Walsh has to say about his stance over the last decade in the wake of the demise of RCP8.5. “Those numbers shaped a decade and a half of climate journalism, including a lot of my own when I covered climate change at Time magazine. I didn’t always know — and didn’t always communicate — that the scenario behind the most apocalyptic, attention-getting findings was largely an attempt to imagine how bad things could get, not a true forecast. But I wasn’t alone. RCP 8.5 was a frequent background presence in climate journalism.”

 

[Altair]

The environment is important yes and we should and must do what we can to clean up harmful gases which, contrary to popular belief does not include CO2. By now everyone has read that the forecast devastating increase in carbon levels isn't going to happen so why are we still going ahead with our self-imposed immolation of our economy yes Carney I am referring to your ridiculous requirement for a carbon capture facility and the continued taxes on a natural gas in our atmosphere. Here is what the Science Affairs correspondent for Time Mag. Brien Walsh has to say about his stance over the last decade in the wake of the demise of RCP8.5. “Those numbers shaped a decade and a half of climate journalism, including a lot of my own when I covered climate change at Time magazine. I didn’t always know — and didn’t always communicate — that the scenario behind the most apocalyptic, attention-getting findings was largely an attempt to imagine how bad things could get, not a true forecast. But I wasn’t alone. RCP 8.5 was a frequent background presence in climate journalism.”

Even if this were true, and I'm not going to spend time digging around settled science, but even if it were true, these two things highlighted are not the same thing.

Even if climate scientists were presenting the worst case scenario, it does not mean CO2 isn't harmful.

 

[mariomike]

In case you want to geek out in detail about "urban" vs. "rural" in Canada, this Library of Parliament pub says, basically, "rural Canada" isn't one unitary thing, with no single agreed-on definition, warning that lumping together "rural," "remote," and "northern" (with the three overlapping in some ways) can obscure different realities people are living in those places.

Sorry it wasn't less complicated, folks

Statistics Canada put it this way,

In 2021, the population of rural and small town (RST) Canada was 5,957,695, accounting for 15.2% of Canada's population.

 

[Altair]

So, still the same government?

Guilbeault could quit caucus as soon as this week, government sources tell CTV News

Former environment and climate change minister Steven Guilbeault is considering resigning from the Liberal Party caucus over his concerns about climate policy, four sources in the federal government tell CTV News.

www.ctvnews.ca

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/guilbeault-resigning-as-mp-9.7212835

Even better, he's resigning from parliament.

Better for the LPC to put another MP in his place than to have him be in parliament as a thorn in everyones side.

 

[Czech_pivo]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/guilbeault-resigning-as-mp-9.7212835

Even better, he's resigning from parliament.

Better for the LPC to put another MP in his place than to have him be in parliament as a thorn in everyones side.

Like I suggested - strap him to the bow of a Green Peace boat and let him be a target for the water hoses of the Japanese whaling boats.

 

[Navy_Pete]

The environment is important yes and we should and must do what we can to clean up harmful gases which, contrary to popular belief does not include CO2. By now everyone has read that the forecast devastating increase in carbon levels isn't going to happen so why are we still going ahead with our self-imposed immolation of our economy yes Carney I am referring to your ridiculous requirement for a carbon capture facility and the continued taxes on a natural gas in our atmosphere. Here is what the Science Affairs correspondent for Time Mag. Brien Walsh has to say about his stance over the last decade in the wake of the demise of RCP8.5. “Those numbers shaped a decade and a half of climate journalism, including a lot of my own when I covered climate change at Time magazine. I didn’t always know — and didn’t always communicate — that the scenario behind the most apocalyptic, attention-getting findings was largely an attempt to imagine how bad things could get, not a true forecast. But I wasn’t alone. RCP 8.5 was a frequent background presence in climate journalism.”

So, you are wall of text mad about the apocryphal scenario not coming through? The climate is obviously changing for the bad in all kinds of ways that are less hospitable in long term ways, so it's not good, just less bad than the worst case scenario.

Are you nostalgic for the holes in the ozone layer?

 

[daftandbarmy]

So, still the same government?

Guilbeault could quit caucus as soon as this week, government sources tell CTV News

Former environment and climate change minister Steven Guilbeault is considering resigning from the Liberal Party caucus over his concerns about climate policy, four sources in the federal government tell CTV News.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[YZT580]

Even if this were true, and I'm not going to spend time digging around settled science, but even if it were true, these two things highlighted are not the same thing.

Even if climate scientists were presenting the worst case scenario, it does not mean CO2 isn't harmful.

only in large quantities but koolaid drinkers will never be convinced so there is no point and incidentally, there is absolutely no such thing as settled science

 

[Altair]

only in large quantities but koolaid drinkers will never be convinced so there is no point and incidentally, there is absolutely no such thing as settled science

One of those flat earth types eh?

Have at it.

 

[YZT580]

So, you are wall of text mad about the apocryphal scenario not coming through? The climate is obviously changing for the bad in all kinds of ways that are less hospitable in long term ways, so it's not good, just less bad than the worst case scenario.

Are you nostalgic for the holes in the ozone layer?

absolutely not. But that isn't rectified by storing CO2 underground. It would have been better buying scrubbers for coal plants and higher efficiency natural gas products and installing decent water systems in poorer areas. As for apocryphal scenarios Putin in Ukraine and Trump in the middle east are more liable to destroy the world than a small increase in a natural product of the earth. History shows us that the levels have been up before, our severe weather is less than in the past and it is more than in the past; just choose your century accordingly. Oh and more than half of the British temperature increases come from weather stations that either don't exist or that have an error of +- 5 degrees C.

 

[YZT580]

One of those flat earth types eh?

Have at it.

If a flat earther is one who believes in natural processes and that true science is based upon proving itself wrong I plead guilty and I thank you for the complement. That is why every statement out of science is prefaced with the word theory.