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Does it matter if his intent was to damage the LPC brand? Even if he were to sit as an independent, I suspect he would still support the LPC against the opposition.
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Even as an MP and environment minister, plenty of the LPC faithful thought he was nuts, let alone the general population. I admire that he has convictions and is sticking by them I guess, even if I think he's a militant ideologue (with a questionable grasp on the real world) that is unable to understand that you need to compromise to get big things done in a democracy. 60% of 100% is always better than 100% of 0.
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Some convictions cost real people real time and money. Some people can afford the friction, and some cannot, and for the latter it makes their lives difficult. Convictions are not necessarily admirable. All sorts of people have convictions. In Guilbeault's case, his convictions were burdening a lot of ordinary people, to not much useful purpose.
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I think his convictions were stupid, it was just refreshing to see a politician stand by them. But he's a pretty big outlier, so his leaving is hardly a reflection on anything (and frankly take him quitting as an MP as a sign things are going in the right direction).
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Is there description of his faults somewhere? Im curious how many things i would differ with him on
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Yeah, the only reason he wasn’t Green or NDP was Trudeau. He’s surprised to learn that the LPC is flexible with their principles.
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Not yet ask me in November lol
But is that the issue that he got arrested?
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That of course proves that the science to date is wrong. Brilliant! In my many years of following this complex matter, I failed to see that obvious flaw in the data, so many thanks for pointing that out.
Your proof seems to be that world leaders continue to emit carbon in their professional and personal life.
That of course proves that the science to date is wrong. Brilliant! In my many years of following this complex matter, I failed to see that obvious flaw in the data, so many thanks for pointing that out.
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Yes. He's been arrested dozens of times.
Our (former) minister: the criminal... good riddance
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Not quite. But if our exalted leaders wish to compel adjustments on the peasants, I'd like to see some leadership by example on that front, if the issue is so serious.
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or continue to purchase waterfront acreage in areas that are supposed to be underwater in a few years. They have the inside knowledge, are addicted to making money and yet they blow it on ocean front property. Incidentally, as far as sea level rise is concerned, many of those islands that were supposed to disappear have actually gained ground. The one the UN used as a poster child, Tuvalu has actually increased by 3%. But don't believe me, believe the experts: Kench, P.S. et al., Patterns of island change and persistence offer alternate adaptation pathways for atoll nations.
So why is it that you continue to promote a return to the 18th century way of living because that is the only way you will ever meet the limits being imposed by government? I got it: you are lifetime members of the Justin, Guilbeault fan club. The very fact that they supported it is proof enough that there is a scam built in.
There are lots of really expert experts who totally disagree with the entire issue of AGW. Here are a few of them Mann and his hockey stick were proven totally false. The Emails that were released contained ample evidence of conspiracy amongst the correspondents. Polar bears are increasing in number and the 97% consensus is based upon quicksand.
- Lennart O. Bengtsson, who was Director of the Max Planck Institute for Meteorology in Hamburg, Germany.
- John R. Christy, Distinguished Professor of Atmospheric Science and Director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama in Huntsville.
- Roy Spencer, University of Alabama in Huntsville, and NASA. He and Dr John Christy received NASA’s Exceptional Scientific Achievement Medal for their global temperature monitoring work with satellites.<a data-state="closed" data-grace-area-trigger="" href="Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW)"><span>34</span></a>
- Judith A. Curry, who due to the “craziness” of the politicization of climate science, in 2017 took early retirement from her position as Professor in the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at Georgia Tech, USA, a position she had held for 15 years.
- Richard S. Lindzen, Professor Emeritus in the Department of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences at MIT, contributed to the IPCC’s 1995 and 2001 reports, but became skeptical of the alarmist climate model projections.
- Nir J. Shaviv, Professor and Chair of the Racah Institute of Physics at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem
In 2018 China had just under 1000 GW of coal generated power. They have been adding to that figure ever since. The U.S. had 261 GW. That is some poster child. Yes they have a lot of wind and solar power but they are definitely not reducing the carbon based at all.
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Fault is a personal conclusion of mine, but he was the biggest and possibly sole driver behind the way the climate change policies and the carbon taxes were pushed, as well as likely a lot of ministerial foot dragging on various environmental assessments and other issues, where the focus was on the environment regardless of the impact on Canadians and Canadian businesses.
If it was up to him, all the oil would stay in the ground, which is fine in theory if you completely ignore that pretty much every advance in the industrial revolution onwards and the entire information age relies heavily on petrochemicals.
Emission controls on vehicles and industries, investment in cleaner energy (like nuclear mini and micro energy), etc all have a real and measurable impact on Canadian emissions than the punitive approach he tried to take, and is being walked back because it is a shitty way to do it.
Things like EV tax credits, home energy improvement programs, emission improvement tax credits for industry etc are actually pretty effective in real terms. One big win generally is the planned upgrade of the national energy grid which is long overdue, and needed EV or not to support growth, but a very real measure the government can do on the infra background that actually enables a lot of things that will actually make a difference.
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...raising the question of whether the burden of proof is on those claiming "climate change is an existential threat", or on those claiming "climate change is not an existential threat".
I could probably imagine a large number of climate change scenarios that would be existential threats. But they are all in the realm of "underpants gnome" 1-2-3.
The wheels have pretty much come off of the original two-plus-decades-ago climate alarmism. It was obvious from "go" that people simultaneously claiming that greenhouse effect was going to warm things and denying that greenhouse effect was not going to produce a more humid climate had to be wrong. Between the CO2 and humidity increases, we should always have expected a more vegetated world. And so people have started to observe.
But somehow climate alarmist zealots manage to keep grabbing the controls at all levels of government in Canada, wasting finite resources in pursuit of quests to undo a tiny fraction of the "damage" being effected in less prosperous countries.
Nothing beats a spare-no-expense cause for grifting opportunities.
I could probably imagine a large number of climate change scenarios that would be existential threats. But they are all in the realm of "underpants gnome" 1-2-3.
The wheels have pretty much come off of the original two-plus-decades-ago climate alarmism. It was obvious from "go" that people simultaneously claiming that greenhouse effect was going to warm things and denying that greenhouse effect was not going to produce a more humid climate had to be wrong. Between the CO2 and humidity increases, we should always have expected a more vegetated world. And so people have started to observe.
But somehow climate alarmist zealots manage to keep grabbing the controls at all levels of government in Canada, wasting finite resources in pursuit of quests to undo a tiny fraction of the "damage" being effected in less prosperous countries.
Nothing beats a spare-no-expense cause for grifting opportunities.
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If you think the green energy economy equates to building coal generated power in china i have nothing to say to you that won't get me banned.
oh no, it also includes drafting children, slave labour and abhorrent living conditions. I do love your idea of a poster child though.
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