Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[lenaitch]

Thanks for that. Sounds a bit more transactional than benevolent on our part if we’re renting out idle capacity when we don’t need it.

The Province of Quebec has a standing agreement with Los Angeles County for two CL-415s.

Inside the inferno: Canadian pilots battle the deadly L.A. firestorm - Skies Mag

Canadian pilots, maintainers, and aircraft helped quell the devastating January fires, part of an enduring partnership between two allies.

skiesmag.com

 

[lenaitch]

So many people say it's just Trump, wait out Trump.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2078265610845466891

"Make sure the people suffering get compensated".

Are some US politicians that dumb, or assume their public is that dumb, to not realize that people who are suffering will be the ones paying any tariff?

 

[brihard]

"Make sure the people suffering get compensated".

Are some US politicians that dumb, or assume their public is that dumb, to not realize that people who are suffering will be the ones paying any tariff?

Yes.

 

[CBH99]

Why not? We already have war and death, famine is coming, why not add pestilence?

Sorry man, I misunderstood the context...

Forgive me for not rooting for more plagues

Are some US politicians that dumb, or assume their public is that dumb, to not realize that people who are suffering will be the ones paying any tariff?

Mate, that doesn't even touch the tip of the iceberg...

Remember the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994?? AI summary is below:


Under DSHEA:

Dietary supplements (such as many vitamins, herbs, amino acids, and bodybuilding supplements) are regulated more like foods than prescription drugs.

Manufacturers generally do not need FDA approval before selling a supplement.
Instead, the company is responsible for ensuring the product is safe and that its labeling is truthful.

The FDA usually steps in after a product is on the market if it determines the product is unsafe or illegally marketed.

This was a major point made in Bigger, Stronger, Faster, because it explained why many bodybuilding supplements could be sold without the kind of pre-market testing required for new pharmaceuticals.

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Yes they can be that dumb...

They passed a law that basically allows supplement companies to put their product to market without requiring the FDA to ensure they are safe first.

Many companies have 2 seperate product lines for the same product...one to be sold on the American market, and one for the export market and are subject to far stricter testing/screening procedures.

Yikes!

 

[HavokFour]

Why bother get rid of PP?

If he steps down or is pushed out, Jamil Javani or Micheal Cooper win the leadership, take over the party and run the same playback and same soundbites.

Why bother?

Well, a new story today. Things aren't sounding happy.

Infighting among senior Conservatives leaves caucus, staff, and volunteer morale ‘in the absolute shitter,’ say MPs, veteran party members - The Hill Times

Some Conservatives are hoping the infighting between Leader Pierre Poilievre and prominent party members will 'die in the high temperatures of July and the slow broil of summer,' but others think it’s too deep and could be damaging for the leader.

www.hilltimes.com

 

[dapaterson]

Perfectly normal for a senior Conservative strategist who got Ford elected with three consecutive majorities to say this:

“When you elect leaders who are completely and utterly unaccomplished prior to entering politics and who have entered politics in their 20s, you are going to be very vulnerable to running against somebody who has actually done something with their life.”

“And why [Andrew] Scheer is still sitting in the caucus is the same reason why Poilievre will end up sitting in the caucus after he’s done being leader: because he is unemployable in any other job,” Teneycke added.

 

[Good2Golf]

Well, a new story today. Things aren't sounding happy.

Infighting among senior Conservatives leaves caucus, staff, and volunteer morale ‘in the absolute shitter,’ say MPs, veteran party members - The Hill Times

Some Conservatives are hoping the infighting between Leader Pierre Poilievre and prominent party members will 'die in the high temperatures of July and the slow broil of summer,' but others think it’s too deep and could be damaging for the leader.

www.hilltimes.com

…the money quote…

The source argued that one of Poilievre’s biggest challenges in taking on Carney is that the prime minister is a Red Tory, and occupies much of the Conservative Party’s traditional political ground. They said Carney has embraced a number of policies Conservatives have put forward for years, making it more difficult for Poilievre to draw sharp policy contrasts.

“Carney is essentially a progressive conservative, which causes us all sorts of problems,” said the senior Conservative. “Because we’re not well designed to [fight] against a progressive conservative.”

 

[Altair]

…the money quote…

LPC

Liberal Progressive Conservative.

Same reason PP hates Ford.

 

[Halifax Tar]

As much I as think he needs to leave, he made a big mistake not letting Canadians see this version of him. And I dont think he can get it back.

Aside from some sort of unseen LPC implosion we are looking at another decade of LPC governance IMHO. And that's a GD shame, we deserve better.

 

[dapaterson]

As much I as think he needs to leave, he made a big mistake not letting Canadians see this version of him. And I dont think he can get it back.

Aside from some sort of unseen LPC implosion we are looking at another decade of LPC governance IMHO. And that's a GD shame, we deserve better.

Unfortunately for the Conservatives, the new NDP leader is as ineffectual as his predecessors. With that flank secure, the LPC can focus on further eroding the left wing of the CPC.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Unfortunately for the Conservatives, the new NDP leader is as ineffectual as his predecessors. With that flank secure, the LPC can focus on further eroding the left wing of the CPC.

Not only the left, but the centre as well….

 

[dapaterson]

Not only the left, but the centre as well….

I suspect the prior left of the CPC has already jumped ship, so the left flank is now what was previously the centre.

At some point the remaining Trudeau (Jr) Liberals may jump ship to the NDP, but the core LPC staff and those in the orbit thereof have always been primarily focused on retention of power, not ideological purity.

The return to key bagmen being stuffed in the Senate to give them contacts and a secure income while their principal job is as a party manager has returned.

TL;DR I suspect there are many within the LPC establishment who are pleased to see Trudeau Mk II leave, so they can return to the prior status quo.

 

[Altair]

I suspect the prior left of the CPC has already jumped ship, so the left flank is now what was previously the centre.

At some point the remaining Trudeau (Jr) Liberals may jump ship to the NDP, but the core LPC staff and those in the orbit thereof have always been primarily focused on retention of power, not ideological purity.

The return to key bagmen being stuffed in the Senate to give them contacts and a secure income while their principal job is as a party manager has returned.

TL;DR I suspect there are many within the LPC establishment who are pleased to see Trudeau Mk II leave, so they can return to the prior status quo.

strong opinions, loosely held.

 

[The Bread Guy]

She certainly has the ethics and ambition to make it big in the LPC.

Floor-crossing MP Idlout expensed purchases from her own business

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/idlout-expenses-payback-9.7133405

Not just that, it seems ....

Ethics Commissioner orders Liberal MP Lori Idlout to cut financial ties to federal contractor

Liberal MP Lori Idlout has been ordered by the federal Ethics Commissioner to sever her financial interest in a company that has received more than $1 million in federal contracts, according to newly filed ethics disclosures.

www.rebelnews.com

... with this from the Commish's page on her biz now placed in trust:

 

[The Bread Guy]

As much I as think he needs to leave, he made a big mistake not letting Canadians see this version of him. And I dont think he can get it back.

Agreed on the yellow 100%. In spite of him appearing on more MSM than he used to, he still seems to be a bit more ... guarded? stiff? ... than he is on platforms where he's more comfortable.

Perfectly normal for a senior Conservative strategist who got Ford elected with three consecutive majorities to say this:

“When you elect leaders who are completely and utterly unaccomplished prior to entering politics and who have entered politics in their 20s, you are going to be very vulnerable to running against somebody who has actually done something with their life.”

“And why [Andrew] Scheer is still sitting in the caucus is the same reason why Poilievre will end up sitting in the caucus after he’s done being leader: because he is unemployable in any other job,” Teneycke added.

Kory's burned hard Blue bridges long before this, so it actually is "normal" - for him, anyway.

 

[MilEME09]

Magellan just got a contract to make M72 here in canada

Magellan Aerospace and the Government of Canada Announce Contract to Develop Canadian Production of the M-72 Light Anti-Tank Weapon

Magellan Aerospace Corporation ("Magellan") announced today that it was awarded a contract from the Government of Canada to produce the M-72 Light Anti-Tank Weapon (LAW) under Canada's Munitions Supply Program. The contract represents an important investment in Canada's sovereign defence...

investingnews.com

 

[Jarnhamar]

New details on Gordie Howe Bridge deal confirmed, following confusion caused by Mark Carney’s remarks​

New details on Gordie Howe Bridge deal confirmed, following confusion caused by Mark Carney’s remarks

The money the Canadian government is sharing with the U.S. represents the “net revenue” generated by bridge activity after operating costs have been paid, a federal source has clarified.

www.thestar.com

For the first 15 years, Canada will pay down debt incurred to build the bridge using money left over after sharing revenue with the U.S.

Seems like a strange mistake for someone of PM Carney's pedigree to make.

 

[dapaterson]

New details on Gordie Howe Bridge deal confirmed, following confusion caused by Mark Carney’s remarks​

New details on Gordie Howe Bridge deal confirmed, following confusion caused by Mark Carney’s remarks

The money the Canadian government is sharing with the U.S. represents the “net revenue” generated by bridge activity after operating costs have been paid, a federal source has clarified.

www.thestar.com

Seems like a strange mistake for someone of PM Carney's pedigree to make.

Carrying costs for the bridge are being paid whether open or closed. Some of the expenses covered under the agreement as well.

Which is better - some income now and the bridge open, or no income, continuing expenses, and the bridge closed?

 

[Altair]

Carrying costs for the bridge are being paid whether open or closed. Some of the expenses covered under the agreement as well.

Which is better - some income now and the bridge open, or no income, continuing expenses, and the bridge closed?

Never, ever,agree to a shakedown.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Carrying costs for the bridge are being paid whether open or closed. Some of the expenses covered under the agreement as well.

Which is better - some income now and the bridge open, or no income, continuing expenses, and the bridge closed?

I'd say the bridge opening now would be better.

What concerns me more is this:

a. A Harvard-educated former Governor of the Bank of Canada and the Bank of England made what appears to be a surprisingly amateur mistake; or

b. Prime Minister Carney knowingly provided inaccurate information.