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Someone bless and pray for those SAR techs and all the medical personnel. Because if it is death by fire as reported above, they will have nightmares for quite a while.
17 Oct 2026: Major fire at CFB Wainwright
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Dealing with the death of a patient in your care, regardless of cause, is always an emotionally challenging experience. Though burn patients can present with visually horrific external injuries, the leading causes of death in fire victims are often related to respiratory related injuries (e.g., CO poisoning, smoke inhalation or respiratory tract injury).
Thoughts are with the victims and first responders.
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This is the latest statement, given we arent getting numbers it means things are still very fluid 18h into the incident
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Just spotted this from the info-machine (also archived here):
Incident at Canadian Forces Base Wainwright - Canada.ca
A fire ignited within the training area of Canadian Forces Base (CFB) Wainwright, Alberta, at approximately 4:00 p.m. (local time) on October 17, 2026. The fire spread rapidly beyond the boundaries of the training area, while military and civilian emergency services responded quickly to control...
Also, this from NATO's Military Committee:
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And we probably won't see anything until notifications are done.
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I suspect that there are a very large number of NoK notifications and that takes time.
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Usual caveats, but the Wikipedia page has begun:
en.wikipedia.org
CFB Wainwright fire - Wikipedia
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Less than 24 hours after the incident, on a weekend. As noted, NoK notification has to be conducted, and any official statements will be vetted and rewritten to avoid perception of interference in the investigations that will ensue.
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That BoI is going to be a monster.
It’s only been about 16 hours or so, all on a weekend, half of that overnight dealing with a mass cas that from all credible accounts greatly exceeded local and to an extent regional medical capacity. Probably the flow of casualties temporarily escaped meticulous tracking as they moved beyond Wainwright, and the affected unit wants to be meticulously sure it has that info fully and accurately captured and updated. Likely there are some cas in bad enough shape that over and above any NoK for fatalities known at the time, probably some others have had to happen for grievous injuries. Again, overnight, probably across the country.
Likely in all this there’s a pretty good sense of how it started, but the best sources of that information may not be in any shape to provide it or follow up on whatever was reported in the first few minutes.
While CAF may have had a few recent-ish incidents with more deaths at a single time (God I hope that remains true), probably the total number of deaths and serious cas is the worst mass cas we’ve seen since maybe Medusa.
I’m confident of only a few things: a lot of troops a hurt, a lot of other troops and civilian professionals have worked and are working their asses off to help them, bullshit abounds, and it’ll probably be some time yet before the powers that be are in a position to commit to much detail.
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And witnesses scattered across half the country as they are flown to every available hospital.
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I can tell you from experience that it is easy to lose track of casualties if you are not focused, or if the system gets overwhelmed - some may be unconscious, some may have been injured or disfigured, clothing including name tags & dog tags may be missing. In one of the incidents I was involved in, even something as simple as one troop borrowing another's small pack with a name tag on it was enough to cause chaos. I cannot even imagine how stressed and exhausted the staff out there are right now.
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I would imagine burn casualties are among the most intensive to triage, treat and care for. So a lot of healthcare human effort is taken up and furthermore with hospital hallway medicine being standard is there even sufficient resources for a mass burn over a few dozen (if that’s even what is needed). I hope so.
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For Mass Casualty Incident ( MCI ), do CAF paramedics use Advanced Medical Priority Dispatch System (AMPDS) , and the 5-level Prehospital Canadian Triage and Acuity Scale (CTAS) and Hospital Destination Coordinators?
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The NoK notification system isn't set up for this sort of situation. Not enough people. It was set up for Afghanistan. And this has already surpassed Afghanistan single incident numbers.
We exercised a ship being hit once at the Ottawa PA and notification coordination level. The processes were immediately out of their depth. It's complicated, fluid with scanty information. And you sure as hell don't want to notify the wrong family.
We exercised a ship being hit once at the Ottawa PA and notification coordination level. The processes were immediately out of their depth. It's complicated, fluid with scanty information. And you sure as hell don't want to notify the wrong family.
Edmonton and Calgary each have eight bed burn units. I would assume they can probably surge to a few more beds in an emergency, but I would also assume neither was vacant. I expect that ICU likely took some.
I saw a post on Twitter this morning where a mother identified her son at 1 Fd Amb as being one of the seriously injured.
Carney to speak any minute now.
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