Need Information Regarding my Youth Record.

[Worried Recruit]

Hi guys, 1st post here. I have a very embarrassing situation I'm in and would really appreciate it if I could get some feedback. So, Here goes:

When I was 13 years old I moved to a new province to live with my father, His new wife and my 2 half sisters. Needless to say, It didn't go so well. Long story short, I was charged with sexual assault for taking a game too far with my sisters, I was charged when I was 14. I went to counseling for 2 years after that and was on probation until I was 16. But now I am 27 years old, And want to join the Canadian Forces. I know that once I apply to the CF they will do a background check and discover this. Not that I would make any attempt to hide it, And am completely willing to discuss this with whom it may concern.

So my question is this: Will this completely ruin any chance I have of employment? Will the Cf take into consideration that the incident took place around 13 years ago? That i was just a boy when this happened and in no way what so ever reflects the man I've become? Is my position on this even defendable? Or did I ruin my life 13 years ago because I was an idiot then? 

Thank you for taking the time to read this. And please feel free not to tear me down because of this, This is actually the first time I've shared this with anyone outside of the legal system since when I was a boy. I really would have only earned my self respect once I've become a proud member of the Canadian Forces. I just want to know if that goal is obtainable in this lifetime.

 

[CBH99]

Your best bet is to contact your local recruiter - explain the situation to them, and see what they say.  (If I were you, personally, I wouldnt start telling them my name & details during this conversation) - but contact them, explain the situation to them, and see how it goes.

If you were charged as a youth, there are certain things that immediately come to mind.

-  A youth record does not get disclosed during the background check process, as that record is sealed by law.  (Meaning it does not appear on CPIC, and that information is kept seperate - so it does not come up during a CPIC check.)

-  Were you convicted?  Was the probation part of a discharge deal of some kind? 


I wouldnt assume the worst just yet.  Not knowing any of the details (and I dont want to know) - people do silly things that only appear silly in hindsight.  And I think its hard pressed for us to judge you for something you did when you were 12 years old. 

The above bullets immediately come to mind, and on that note you may not have anything to worry about at all.  But, as we always tell new posters, contacting your local recruiting center and discussing the situation with them is always your best bet.

Good luck.

 

[Occam]

Your best bet is to contact your local recruiter - explain the situation to them, and see what they say.  (If I were you, personally, I wouldnt start telling them my name & details during this conversation) - but contact them, explain the situation to them, and see how it goes.

If you were charged as a youth, there are certain things that immediately come to mind.

-  A youth record does not get disclosed during the background check process, as that record is sealed by law.  (Meaning it does not appear on CPIC, and that information is kept seperate - so it does not come up during a CPIC check.)

-  Were you convicted?  Was the probation part of a discharge deal of some kind? 


I wouldnt assume the worst just yet.  Not knowing any of the details (and I dont want to know) - people do silly things that only appear silly in hindsight.  And I think its hard pressed for us to judge you for something you did when you were 12 years old. 

The above bullets immediately come to mind, and on that note you may not have anything to worry about at all.  But, as we always tell new posters, contacting your local recruiting center and discussing the situation with them is always your best bet.

Good luck.

The above is pretty good advice, especially the part in yellow.  I took a quick search around the site, and there seems to be some pretty bad advice given out (in my opinion) concerning full disclosure.  The whole idea of the youth criminal justice system is so that one indiscretion as a youth doesn't follow you around for the rest of your life.  If you need to disclose your past, I'm sure the recruiter will tell you.  If you don't need to, I'm sure they'll tell you that too.  If you don't need to disclose it, I wouldn't - the criminal records system may have purged your history, but human nature is human nature and you don't need people's judgment being clouded by something they don't need to know about.

 

[blacktriangle]

Good advice in the above two posts - I will add, from experience:

Things you did as a youth can still show up when you apply as an adult. I was under the impression that the past was the past, but I still had to deal with some BS. I didn't disclose anything to the CFRC until they basically "called me" on it, at which point, I explained the situation and was promptly assigned a new MCC so that my selection process would not be biased.

In the end, I was fine and have gone on to obtain various security clearances without issue.

Hope it all works out for you, and feel free to message me if there is anything you think I can help you with.

 

[mariomike]

Will this completely ruin any chance I have of employment?

You may find some answers here.

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