Pay Raise For Fiscal Year 2006

[armywife/cadetmom]

does the CANFORGEN say YES or NO about the back pay being out mid december?  THe Lumpsum thing being delayed is why i ask, but i believe that refers to the Officer thing.

 

[Dankai]

Im not sure where you read that it wont be in.  It states in the canforgen that the lump sum payment for the officers (that .08% from last years fiscal year) and cwo's will not be in that pay.  The whole unit has already been told as well, to look for BY dec 15

 

[Torlyn]

but you wouldnt believe how many wives are!  If these people rely on our wonderful (cough) Government to have those funds in our accounts December 15th and it isnt there, all *H* will break loose, as its going to Distroy Christmas for those people who are counting on it to Christmas shop. 

Um...  All due respect, but if a member (or spouse) goes ahead and spends money before it's actually in the bank, who's fault is it?  We've been waiting since 01 APR 06 for an increase.  I think members can wait a little bit longer.  What would all of these spouses do if the raise was only 1%, or non-existent?  If not recieving this money is going to destroy Christmas, someone did some piss-poor planning leading up to the holidays.  I know it sucks having to wait, but as I'm sure you and other spouses are aware, the game is "hurry up and wait". 

T

 

[Dankai]

I agree.  How many times have we been told to not belive it 'till we see it.  I know with the rate things change in the CF - Im not going to start "spending more" in hopes that everything will go smoothly.

 

[armywife/cadetmom]

Does the CANFORGEN spcifically state it WILL be there? All it does say is that the new wage will be instated.

 

[George Wallace]

ENOUGH!

LADIES

It does have a lot to do with "Piss Poor Planning".  If it had not been annouced, you would still have to budget for Christmas and the New Year.  Just because it has now been announced, you do not have to 'Spend' it, nor budget with it.  You wouldn't have got it, had it not been announce, and you still don't have it.  If there is a problem with the Pay System, data entry, natural disaster, act of God, etc., this money may still not arrive until the New Year. 

So act fiscally and pretend that you do not have the money (because you don't) and budget as if you have not heard about getting it. 


DO NOT SPEND MONEY THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE!

 

[Dankai]

wow, calm down!     
As for the canforgen I think most of us here interpreted it the same way. I dont think they have to write down every single little detail. What they said was enough for me to understand, others here to understand,  and even the units here understand.
We too have a lot of those issues going on, with both children needing specialists (ds neurologist, neurosurgeon, orthopedist, genetcists, etc) and have to drive 2 hours to go, get sitters still, also with the ortho only being at shriners in Montreal and we have to pay out of pocket for some of those expenses and whatnot - we still have to plan . But I plan with the funds that we actually have.  As I said, we've all heard many times not to count on what we hear. I wont budget that money in until its in my account.  Thats just me though.

 

[George Wallace]

This is not the 'Wive's Net' and not the place for any spouse to be questioning the Member's Pay.  That is the concern of the Member and the Pay System on an individual basis, and the Member and his/her spouse on an individual basis.  Two separate and diverse options.  It is not a matter for any spouse to be speculating or whining about on the Internet.

 

[armywife/cadetmom]

I guess i should put my apron back on and get back in the kitchen then, soo sorry to have questions regarding this, especially since i control the finances in this house....ill try to remember that a 'spouse' has no right to question the all powerful Man, or the Military... or heaven forbid, look for awnsers on the net from Military Men, who might know the awnser~

 

[Remius]

Ok, I don't think that's what he meant.  Sorry to hear about your condition, I have some good friends and family that have gone through it, anyway you put it it sucks.

I realise that pay is important and when we hear about a raise we want it.  but the CF took so long because they negotiated the best deal with TB to get what we are getting.  When we get it we'll have it and we'll be better off.  The thing is too, is that the CF can't be responsible for everyone's social condition.  I'm a single dad, but that's not the CFs fault is it?

 

[armyvern]

I guess i should put my apron back on and get back in the kitchen then, soo sorry to have questions regarding this, especially since i control the finances in this house....
"BAD HOUSE WIFE.......BAD!! Dont question or complain about MAN THINGS!"

No one questioned you about man things...or accused you of being a bad house-wife. They said to take your spats somewhere else.

And I suggest that your husband is obviously the one in the Military. You have specific questions regarding his pay, or are unsure whether or not it will be in his account, then have him check his pay through his pay office. Because his pay office will be the ones to answer specific questions regarding their procedures and regarding his specific pay. Don't contact them yourself, they won't answer...it's his pay. I would hope that he's at least able to do that without your assistance.

And, I too am sorry to hear about what's occuring to you. But I'd like to say, that being a female myself, I have real big problems with women who like to play the "housewife/woman not as good as man thing", when it's totally uncalled for.

 

[the 48th regulator]

No one questioned you about man things...or accused you of being a bad house-wife. They said to take your spats somewhere else.

And I suggest that your husband is obviously the one in the Military. You have specific questions regarding his pay, or are unsure whether or not it will be in his account, then have him check his pay through his pay office. Because his pay office will be the ones to answer specific questions regarding their procedures and regarding his specific pay. Don't contact them yourself, they won't answer...it's his pay. I would hope that he's at least able to do that without your assistance.

And, I too am sorry to hear about what's occuring to you. But I'd like to say, that being a female myself, I have real big problems with women who like to play the "housewife/woman not as good as man thing", when it's totally uncalled for.

Here here,

Plus one on that.

And on a Moderators note, let's keep this with the theme of the thread, otherwise a lock.

dileas

tess

 

[armywife/cadetmom]

This is not the 'Wive's Net' and not the place for any spouse to be questioning the Member's Pay.  That is the concern of the Member and the Pay System on an individual basis, and the Member and his/her spouse on an individual basis.  Two separate and diverse options.  It is not a matter for any spouse to be speculating or whining about on the Internet.

Your kidding me right!  all the BS out there regarding our Military fighting for us to say what we want, and then the same people tell you shut up.  My husband, the Military Member, the one who gets the military pay cheque has read this and thinks its a crock!  I asked a simple question, it was blown apart, i have editted my posts to be back on thread, but you know what, i AM a strong idependant woman, i dont feel that i should be lesser, thats WHY my post about the kitchen is in Sacastic tone,  George, would you tell your wife the same thing you have told me?  Maybe the CF should send out a Broadcast Mail so all CF members can let their Spouses know they are not allowed to Whine on the internet.

 

[Remius]

Ok, you are turning this into something that it isn't.  Your original post was more of a rant, thus the response you got.  Now to answer your question it states that most adjustments would be reflected in the mid dec pay.

Cheers

 

[Dankai]

Hmmm, maybe I should go edit my reply as well to her since the responses now dont make any sense to what she originally brought up, lol.  But nah, I wont.
I dont see any point in changing your posts as you did to make it go back "on topic" when you went off and said that to George Wallace and just continued on being off topic.

In any case if you have any questions as to when it will be - just have your husband ask at work as others have suggested if you want "real" answers.

I know thats what fellow friends at work did - went in and asked to get an answer there.

 

[Bruce Monkhouse]

Your kidding me right!  all the BS out there regarding our Military fighting for us to say what we want, and then the same people tell you shut up.  My husband, the Military Member, the one who gets the military pay cheque has read this and thinks its a crock!  I asked a simple question, it was blown apart, i have editted my posts to be back on thread, but you know what, i AM a strong idependant woman, i dont feel that i should be lesser, thats WHY my post about the kitchen is in Sacastic tone,  George, would you tell your wife the same thing you have told me?  Maybe the CF should send out a Broadcast Mail so all CF members can let their Spouses know they are not allowed to Whine on the internet.

Did he read it BEFORE you edited out your initial rant and the other posters responded to that?   Bad internet form.......

 

[armywife/cadetmom]

im sorry if my origional post came out as a rant, i was wondering What the general opinion was among Members, so i and my MW friends would know whats going on.  Where my DH works, they dont know, so i asked here.  If my husband had asked the same thing, NOONE would have jumped on him like this.  You also cant tell me Pay cant be discussed when this thread is ELEVEN pages long.  THere are a number fo people who have jumped on things i say, treating me like a bloody IDIOT because i am not CF.  
WHy have non service members been allowed onto Army.ca when we are not allowed to ask questions or offer input?

Yes my husband read the origional of every post. 

 

[Bruce Monkhouse]

 If my husband had asked the same thing, NOONE would have jumped on him like this.  

If you had ASKED, no one would have jumped on you.     OK, apology accepted .........back on topic

 

[Remius]

It was the way you asked.  Anyway I gave you the answer a few posts back and that's from the CANFORGEN.

looking forward to that backpay.  If it comes before x-mas the happier we'll all be.  If not, it's still money and I won't complain.

I am more than happy with my pay for what I do.

 

[mover1]

Comparing pay between allied countries is very difficult, besides what is the point? 

The point is to let the people of Canada know that they are getting adequate bang for thier buck.