Quebec Election

[Altair]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2086956636535406877

Two different parties, from different countries, from different levels of devolution both having a moment right now.

 

[brihard]

It’s shaping up to be a Parti Québecois (sovereigntist) victory, but not clear if majority of minority. It might be razor thin on either side of the line.

Quebec sovereigntist party will form next government, CTV News projects. Live results here.

CTV News projects the Parti Québécois will form Quebec's next government. The PQ leader has vowed to hold a referendum on Quebec sovereignty. Follow for live updates.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[HavokFour]

It’s shaping up to be a Parti Québecois (sovereigntist) victory, but not clear if majority of minority. It might be razor thin on either side of the line.

Quebec sovereigntist party will form next government, CTV News projects. Live results here.

CTV News projects the Parti Québécois will form Quebec's next government. The PQ leader has vowed to hold a referendum on Quebec sovereignty. Follow for live updates.

www.ctvnews.ca

Minority, with CAQ completely wiped out.

High chance it's dissolved before Trump is out of office for their attempt at a referendum.

EDIT: Their vote share (27%) is also lower than the supposed current support for separation in QC (30%).

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/livestory/quebec-election-2026-results-9.7369473

2026 provincial general election results

On election day, after 8:00 p.m., preliminary results are broadcast as election officers finish counting their polling station’s ballots. The results become official after the addition of the votes, which takes place the day after the election in most electoral divisions.

www.electionsquebec.qc.ca

 

[Halifax Tar]

Look at that... Good Luck Que.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

Right now, no party has a majority in the Asemblee Nationale. It's 59 seats PQ, with a "no-referendum" bloc made of the Liberals (40) and the Conservatives (19), for another equal 59 seats. The only problem: The balance of power, so to speak, goes to the socialist Quebec-Solidaire party with 9 seats. They are also separatists and will find more affinity with the PQ than the other two parties.

CAQ, with the second largest chunk of the popular vote, has been eradicated from the map. That's waht happens with fragmented voting against a party with a solid base, even though not a majority of voters.

 

[NavyShooter]

Interesting - Quebec elects a bunch of folks who want to split from Canada, no-one bats an eye....Alberta tries to do something like that and everyone's up in arms about how illegal it is to even propose it and anyone who supports it is in cahoots and committing treason.

Or, so it seems from some of the comments out there in the interwebs.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Interesting - Quebec elects a bunch of folks who want to split from Canada, no-one bats an eye....Alberta tries to do something like that and everyone's up in arms about how illegal it is to even propose it and anyone who supports it is in cahoots and committing treason.

Or, so it seems from some of the comments out there in the interwebs.

Standby for heavy rolls to port and starboard...

 

[brihard]

Interesting - Quebec elects a bunch of folks who want to split from Canada, no-one bats an eye....Alberta tries to do something like that and everyone's up in arms about how illegal it is to even propose it and anyone who supports it is in cahoots and committing treason.

Or, so it seems from some of the comments out there in the interwebs.

Sovereigntists in Quebec have earned legitimacy by openly running on a sovereignty mandate, being clear about that in every election, and winning seats in the legislature and occasionally forming government.

The Alberta separatists have not done this. There is no party that has run in Alberta politics telling the voters, “we represent an independent Alberta, and voting for us will further this aim”. Instead they essentially infiltrated the UCP, a party whose leader will play footsies with separatists in one moment, but in another will avow that she wants Alberta to remain with Canada.

It’s a lack of candour by Alberta separatists, coupled with a lack of any clear coherent leadership with anything remotely resembling a democratic mandate. If Alberta separatists want to be treated like Quebec separatists, then build a party that openly espouses that position and earn support in elections.

Anyone in any separatist movement who appears to be engaging with foreign actors to advance the breakup of Canada should be treated similarly, if the evidence is there.

 

[PrairieFella]

The biggest lesson I take from this is proportional representation is becoming a national security issue. Say what you will about CAQ, they arent seppies. They received 13% of the vote but kept no seats and thus, the remain parties are not able to form a government despite well over half the vote going their way. This is the shit that leads to further polarization. MMPR or STV would have led to a far more representative Assemblé Nationale and now we have to deal with PQ nonsense and obstructionism for a half decade.

 

[Halifax Tar]

The biggest lesson I take from this is proportional representation is becoming a national security issue. Say what you will about CAQ, they arent seppies. They received 13% of the vote but kept no seats and thus, the remain parties are not able to form a government despite well over half the vote going their way. This is the shit that leads to further polarization. MMPR or STV would have led to a far more representative Assemblé Nationale and now we have to deal with PQ nonsense and obstructionism for a half decade.

Welcome to the club.

 

[PrairieFella]

Welcome to the club.

Been in it since my first election at 18 lol. MMPR is something Ive pretty passionately advocated for in the past. We have the tech and its a moral imperative. I disagree with people that support other political parties from me but I stillthink their vote deserves recoginition.

 

[YZT580]

Standby for heavy rolls to port and starboard...

and another round of federal investments into Bombardier, Davies, and a whole bunch more.

 

[QV]

Sovereigntists in Quebec have earned legitimacy by openly running on a sovereignty mandate, being clear about that in every election, and winning seats in the legislature and occasionally forming government.

The Alberta separatists have not done this. There is no party that has run in Alberta politics telling the voters, “we represent an independent Alberta, and voting for us will further this aim”. Instead they essentially infiltrated the UCP, a party whose leader will play footsies with separatists in one moment, but in another will avow that she wants Alberta to remain with Canada.

It’s a lack of candour by Alberta separatists, coupled with a lack of any clear coherent leadership with anything remotely resembling a democratic mandate. If Alberta separatists want to be treated like Quebec separatists, then build a party that openly espouses that position and earn support in elections.

Anyone in any separatist movement who appears to be engaging with foreign actors to advance the breakup of Canada should be treated similarly, if the evidence is there.

Quebec sovereigntists and Alberta separatists. I see a massive double standard.

You minimize different democratic mechanisms like the citizen petition which gathered about 700,000 signatures. You use loaded language like "infiltrated" and "lack of candour" to frame this as sinister when in reality coalition building or internal party pressures are normal in big-tent political parties. You have double standards on leadership where you ignore that Quebec also has fractured factions and internal tensions. You complete your biased take by overlooking these two regions have very different reasons for their movements (cultural vs economic), grading Alberta against Quebec is just lazy.

Dismissive opinions like yours are why this country is fractured.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Quebec sovereigntists and Alberta separatists. I see a massive double standard.

You minimize different democratic mechanisms like the citizen petition which gathered about 700,000 signatures. You use loaded language like "infiltrated" and "lack of candour" to frame this as sinister when in reality coalition building or internal party pressures are normal in big-tent political parties. You have double standards on leadership where you ignore that Quebec also has fractured factions and internal tensions. You complete your biased take by overlooking these two regions have very different reasons for their movements (cultural vs economic), grading Alberta against Quebec is just lazy.

Dismissive opinions like yours are why this country is fractured.

Political biases are a hell of a drug.

 

[brihard]

Quebec sovereigntists and Alberta separatists. I see a massive double standard.

You minimize different democratic mechanisms like the citizen petition which gathered about 700,000 signatures. You use loaded language like "infiltrated" and "lack of candour" to frame this as sinister when in reality coalition building or internal party pressures are normal in big-tent political parties. You have double standards on leadership where you ignore that Quebec also has fractured factions and internal tensions. You complete your biased take by overlooking these two regions have very different reasons for their movements (cultural vs economic), grading Alberta against Quebec is just lazy.

Dismissive opinions like yours are why this country is fractured.

Political biases are a hell of a drug.

Take a seat, gents.

If Alberta separatists want to be treated like Quebec separatists, then build a party that openly espouses that position and earn support in elections.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Take a seat, gents.

Oh! The great one has spoken.

Notice my post was the plural form bias.

 

[brihard]

Oh! The great one has spoken.

Notice my post was the plural form bias.

You quoted QV (and threw a thumbs up on his post) who was very clearly and specifically addressing me. If you want to say your reply was not in reference to me, then I’ll offer you my apology. Let me know if that’s the case.

 

[Halifax Tar]

You quoted QV (and threw a thumbs up on his post) who was very clearly and specifically addressing me. If you want to say your reply was not in reference to me, then I’ll offer you my apology. Let me know if that’s the case.

I agree with his post, and his interpretation of yours. I also think we all have political biases. Hence the plural form.

I think some of us recognize we have that bias; some of us don't. I think both you and QV are opposite number examples of political biases.

 

[lenaitch]

I won't do the research but I'll betcha that 'sovereignist' and 'separatist' are terms using heavily, and probably interchangeably, but the respective proponents. In Quebec, sovereignty has been a favoured term dating back to the heady days of 'sovereignty association' (out but still in). There has also been a sense that they want to be on their own. In Alberta, 'sovereignty' is indeed used but I get the sense that the sentiment is they want to be not part of Canada. There is a difference. They have made a weak attempt at cultural differences but it doesn't have the same weight as similar Quebec claims.

Over the years, I'm not sure there has been any evidence or allegation of Quebec courting US support. They realize that they would be subsumed faster and deeper being part of the US than part of Canada. They truly believe, rightly or wrongly, that they can go it alone as a French-speaking bastion/oasis in North America.

With Alberta, there is much talk, officially or otherwise, about joining the US, and lots of allegations about contacts and collusion with US officials, so the 'separation' part is only from Canada. That faction sees advantage to being part of the US.

At the end of it all, neither side owns any of the words.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I won't do the research but I'll betcha that 'sovereignist' and 'separatist' are terms using heavily, and probably interchangeably, but the respective proponents. In Quebec, sovereignty has been a favoured term dating back to the heady days of 'sovereignty association' (out but still in). There has also been a sense that they want to be on their own. In Alberta, 'sovereignty' is indeed used but I get the sense that the sentiment is they want to be not part of Canada. There is a difference. They have made a weak attempt at cultural differences but it doesn't have the same weight as similar Quebec claims.

Over the years, I'm not sure there has been any evidence or allegation of Quebec courting US support. They realize that they would be subsumed faster and deeper being part of the US than part of Canada. They truly believe, rightly or wrongly, that they can go it alone as a French-speaking bastion/oasis in North America.

With Alberta, there is much talk, officially or otherwise, about joining the US, and lots of allegations about contacts and collusion with US officials, so the 'separation' part is only from Canada. That faction sees advantage to being part of the US.

At the end of it all, neither side owns any of the words.

While not American, Charles de Gaulle defiantly made a impact as pro Que sovereigntist.

Quebec put up a statue to him, about the affair.

And that was overt.

Also a semi related news article

Concept of Quebec as a country 'generating a lot of diplomatic activity,' says PQ leader

“The fact that we are moving towards becoming a country is generating a lot of diplomatic activity in Quebec,” said PQ leader Paul St-Pierre Plamondon on Thursday, as he presented a summary of the international section of his Blue Book on a sovereign Quebec. He said he has had several meetings...

montreal.citynews.ca