Royal Canadian Air Force headed to mission in Africa ‘very soon’: top general
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Unlike media saying now a different American president is causing Prince Valiant to change his mind on policy he promised ...Chris Pook said:
Unlike the U.S. hinting to us and others to spend more on defence?Oldgateboatdriver said:
No matter the colour of the team jerseys on either side of the border ...
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Oldgateboatdriver:
Lots in Mali actually, esp. helos:
Chris Pook:
Indeed:
One notes that M. Dion is out, finally, as foreign affairs minister.
Mark
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Lots in Mali actually, esp. helos:
Chris Pook:
Indeed:
One notes that M. Dion is out, finally, as foreign affairs minister.
Mark
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Compared to our procurement process, that's the blink of an eye. [Technoviking said:
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Setting up another broken promise? Maybe he finally realized that taxpayers are not willing to spend blood and treasure in order to buy a seat on the UN?Is there a reason why we couldn't provide a Commanding Officer to the Mali mission?
Is one of the conditions of providing a CO that we also have to provide a contingent of troops also? The article states that the UN put out a request for CO's for the multinational UN mission - didn't mention anything about troop contributions also.
Just curious.
Is one of the conditions of providing a CO that we also have to provide a contingent of troops also? The article states that the UN put out a request for CO's for the multinational UN mission - didn't mention anything about troop contributions also.
Just curious.
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Well then, CBH99, I'll just trow this out there, and please, all, keep in mind this is pure speculation on my part based on my knowledge of internal working of our Federal government system:
There is no requirement for the "C.O." of the Mali mission to be from a country that provides troops to the mission. However, when you are "looking" for a mission in Africa, the fact that a Canadian is CO of a given mission already becomes an important factor in where you decide to send your own troops - after all, you would not want one of your own general/flag officer to fail in his/her mission for want of some military support/equipment/troop that you could have provided to him but sent on another mission instead. So accepting the job of C.O. pretty much seals where you send your people (and I am sure that it played a large part in the UN's decision to call "strongly" on Canada for the C.O. position).
But on the other hand, the Trudeau government, I surmise, was taken by complete surprise by the election of Trump (maybe they only relied on mainstream US medias
). As a result, they didn't have any plans for dealing with him in the Canada/US relationship and are now working full time on the program.
Now, normally, the Minister of Defence is a pretty senior position in Canada. But not this time. We got a very very junior minister, we no political experience at all, not even as a Member of Parliament, and no experience running large bureaucratic organizations. That means that all defence aspects are really run out of the PMO. But right now the PMO is over its head in trying to figure Trump, so the MND is simply instructed to "not do anything or take any engagement on" until they can get back to him on what to do next.
That's a personal point of view, but as I said, based in years of experience dealing with Federal politics. Do take it with a grain of salt, of course, as I have never played on Team Red. ;D
There is no requirement for the "C.O." of the Mali mission to be from a country that provides troops to the mission. However, when you are "looking" for a mission in Africa, the fact that a Canadian is CO of a given mission already becomes an important factor in where you decide to send your own troops - after all, you would not want one of your own general/flag officer to fail in his/her mission for want of some military support/equipment/troop that you could have provided to him but sent on another mission instead. So accepting the job of C.O. pretty much seals where you send your people (and I am sure that it played a large part in the UN's decision to call "strongly" on Canada for the C.O. position).
But on the other hand, the Trudeau government, I surmise, was taken by complete surprise by the election of Trump (maybe they only relied on mainstream US medias
). As a result, they didn't have any plans for dealing with him in the Canada/US relationship and are now working full time on the program.Now, normally, the Minister of Defence is a pretty senior position in Canada. But not this time. We got a very very junior minister, we no political experience at all, not even as a Member of Parliament, and no experience running large bureaucratic organizations. That means that all defence aspects are really run out of the PMO. But right now the PMO is over its head in trying to figure Trump, so the MND is simply instructed to "not do anything or take any engagement on" until they can get back to him on what to do next.
That's a personal point of view, but as I said, based in years of experience dealing with Federal politics. Do take it with a grain of salt, of course, as I have never played on Team Red. ;D
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What an asinine comment. Might as well brag how we plan on putting one boot on at a time.
Like information Security, GBA+ and some boots that explode after wearing them a month.
So we're losing out on a chance to lead UN soldiers that among other things get accused of rape, child rape and ignore civilians being butchered a kilometer away? What a missed opportunity :
[Sorry if that sounds harsh and assholish but the more I read about the UN the more I'm blown away by the shit they're doing]
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Jarnhamar said:
Don't forget, we've got the Phoenix pay system to look forward too soon when we're deployed; surely that will make live easier for our families back home.
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Phoenix is off the table as a military pay solution (at least for the near term). CMP said as much at a town hall several months ago.
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CBH99 said:
We provided Dallaire no soldiers in Rwanda and he was stuck leaning on Bengalis to do his bidding (placing him in a very awkward position). I wouldn't ever want to see another Canadian Officer placed in such a position.
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A couple of tidbits ...
- "Canadian aid and foreign affairs officials have made repeated visits to Mali — including one visit just last week — as politicians continue to consider a long-awaited peace operation, the (Toronto) Star has learned. While cabinet ministers insist that no location has been picked for the coming deployment, Mali has been the destination of choice for bureaucrats attempting to scout locations and determine how personnel, combined with millions of dollars in aid and development funding, can be best put to use. Those “non-stop” visits to the African country over recent months have involved personnel from the Defence Department, Foreign Affairs, Aid and Development, a source told the Star ..."
- Meanwhile, elsewhere in Africa ... "As many as 25 Canadian soldiers, based out of Valcartier, Que., will soon take part in a revamped mission to train security forces in the troubled western African country of Niger. Last summer, CBC News reported that regular army troops would take over an ongoing deployment, known as Operation Naberius, from Canada's elite special forces. A handful of the highly-trained soldiers have since 2013 helped train the Niger Armed Forces in marksmanship, reconnaissance and other basic military skills ..."
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IIRC, recently Trudeau said wherever we go from now on, it'll be a total package.
The Commander and their troops and a gaggle of government civies.
I envision two problems immediately.
1) It'll be a constant struggle deciding if it's the 'Commander's mission' or some civie government worker's.
2) Shit is bound to hit the fan, but instead of the mandate, Canadian soldiers will end up protecting the civies.
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The Commander and their troops and a gaggle of government civies.
I envision two problems immediately.
1) It'll be a constant struggle deciding if it's the 'Commander's mission' or some civie government worker's.
2) Shit is bound to hit the fan, but instead of the mandate, Canadian soldiers will end up protecting the civies.
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