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Not arguing that a taser is less lethal. But a taser is a use of force with potential to be lethal, and needs to be viewed as such in any evaluation of options.
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Yes, I promise we know that. Any use of force has the potential to be lethal, obviously different uses of force have different likelihood of that. Reasonableness doesn’t compel us to hang back afraid of fringe outliers.
A halligan to the head has a significantly greater change of being lethal. Someone coming at me with a halligan (or baton, or bat, or other like object) will have a very short time and small amount of space to reconsider their choice or they’re at great risk of being shot.
Super annoying that autocorrect keeps changing ‘halligan’ to ‘gallivanting’. Not now, autocorrect.
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Stupid post.....folks have died tripping over a curb, everything in your life has the potential to be lethal.
"HEY, I said look at me!!"" (steps in front of truck)
We used the term "unintended consequences " when what shouldn't have happened, happened.
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Tripping is an accident.
Pointing a weapon at someone and pulling the trigger is not an accident.
Taser is sold as non-lethal, but it is not.
Who’s selling Taser as non-lethal? The manufacturer has used the appropriate term “less-lethal” for many years.
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I stand corrected; took a second look and you are correct, it was the firefighter who took him down, not the taser which I don't even think was fired.
Agreed.
Oh that was the other thing- a taser cycling is a really distinct sound. I didn’t hear it.
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Anyone whose watched Police vs Fire Dept Charity Ice Hockey games knows you should probably never pick a fight with the fire dept
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The S. B. Howes' Star Troupe Menagerie & Circus clowns learned that lesson in 1855.Anyone whose watched Police vs Fire Dept Charity Ice Hockey games knows you should probably never pick a fight with the fire dept
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So if I come up behind you and trip you up into live traffic we get to call that an "accident"?
Good to know....
When you trip yourself, that’s an accident. When you trip someone else then that’s assault.
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Im aware, it was all part of my response to the absurdity of saying that a laser is sold as non-lethal.
It is not, and neither are ASP's, pepper balls/spray, mace, shields,....all have the ability to cause lethal "unintended consequences".
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I have a different term for those - I call them "foreseeable circumstances"
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I've been tasered, OC sprayed and tear gassed. Despite that tear gas has little effect on me (and none on my son, a former CAF member) I'd rather "ride the lightning" for 5 seconds than deal with 20 - 30 minutes of OC or CS pain.
That being said, OC is not Kung-fu-in-a-can, and tasers have limitations as well.
Yup. Generally, taser either works well or not at all.
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I get to see the results of tasers not working...I usually need to use cool drugs. I suggested more than once that we get some dart guns for the ER, but apparently the optics of shooting someone in the ER with one are poor...
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Reverse the current firearms legislation; and enact castle laws please.
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Sounds like a typical weekend in Cornwall.
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Saw three out of four. First one was after my time.
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Buddy appears to have availed himself of personality enhancing products.
Clearly, the police officer should have deployed the one-handed magic police hold that, as we see on TV, they are all experts at and work every time.
I've not been tased but when I was 'spiced', I didn't know my body could product that much snot.
The challenge with any less-than-lethal option is their impact can range from completely ineffective to actually lethal in some circumstances.
Clearly, the police officer should have deployed the one-handed magic police hold that, as we see on TV, they are all experts at and work every time.
I've not been tased but when I was 'spiced', I didn't know my body could product that much snot.
The challenge with any less-than-lethal option is their impact can range from completely ineffective to actually lethal in some circumstances.
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