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The brown Temperate Combat Boot (AKA: Mk IV Cbt Boot) - No longer CADPAT

Brihard said:
There are a smattering of new recruits in Gagetown wearing them. No word on what they think, but their opinion would't be well informed anyway.

But they do seem to be trickling into the system.

If you turn in worn out black boots, you will be issued the new brown boot.

Bulletin: RSMs everywhere are currently working overtime on the plan of how to blacken them.
 
GnyHwy said:
If you turn in worn out black boots, you will be issued the new brown boot.

Bulletin: RSMs everywhere are currently working overtime on the plan of how to blacken them.

NOT this RSM!
 
One thing with those boots is that the stiching between the leather and the fabric is not done well and will tear very quickly......

Clothing stores here in gagetown are telling people that there will be no polishing of the boots, clean only with a damp cloth....
 
Spanky said:
Guess I better unload my stock in Kiwi.

Send it to me.  If the sizes for the new boots are anything like the last boots, I won't be going to get any.  :nod:

Hell, I won't even bother trying them on.... 
 
Heck I am not getting rid of my black boots untill I am ordered to do so......
 
I was issued a pair of these boots a couple weeks ago here in Kingston.  I had to ( reluctantly ) trade in my pair of MK3s with vibrum soles as they were literally held together on the inside with duct tape.

I was sized for the GP combat boot and told that its a bit of a lottery what shows up.

review -  ( I am not a  kit sl*t, and have always worn the boots I have been issued... so, I cant compare to any Gucci boots out there )

boots seemed to have no break in time and were comfortable from the start.  The Vibrum soles seem good.
They are light, and cool to wear.  (Although, I never really had an issue with hot feet. Even deployed to hotter climates.)  The tag on the boots indicated to be worn from +10 to +30

What I don't like is the very top of the boot, which is similar to the WWB.  I generally like to tie the top of my boot with captain bars and tuck the excess into the boot.  Not possible with these ones.. So, I have the ever present bow tie below the blousing of my combat pants.

No polishing, the directions say to use a damp cloth.  I am sure there will be a time when a suitable brown paste is available at canex.

At first, they looked plastic to me, but I guess I am used to the colour and texture now.  I actually don't mind them.


 
PiperDown said:
What I don't like is the very top of the boot, which is similar to the WWB.  I generally like to tie the top of my boot with captain bars and tuck the excess into the boot.  Not possible with these ones.. So, I have the ever present bow tie below the blousing of my combat pants.

Boot bands solve some of these issues.
 
A comic I found which might be applicable.
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Right before I go on leave I'm going to let it slip that I just "got issued the new combat boots and new uniforms". Supply techs will love it, I'm sure.
 
George Wallace said:
Boot bands solve some of these issues.

boot bands solve the issue if you are standing  still.  They dont solve the issue when you are out and about working all day.

I do wear boots bands.. the problem is they slip up over the boot.  Wasnt a problem when I tucked the excess lace inside the boot.  I only stated I dont like tying a bow at the top of my boot, and having it exposed.

I am sure I will survive.
 
PiperDown said:
boot bands solve the issue if you are standing  still.  They dont solve the issue when you are out and about working all day.

I do wear boots bands.. the problem is they slip up over the boot.  Wasnt a problem when I tucked the excess lace inside the boot.  I only stated I dont like tying a bow at the top of my boot, and having it exposed.

I am sure I will survive.

I never bloused my pants over the tops of my boots, but rather just at the top of them, with the band ( and bloused material) sitting on my leg / ankle. Seemed to work fine for all day wear and work......maybe a little ride up but nothing major. But then again...to each his own. I have to admit, from the pic....I really dont like the look of them.
 
PiperDown said:
boot bands solve the issue if you are standing  still.  They don't solve the issue when you are out and about working all day.

I do wear boots bands.. the problem is they slip up over the boot.  Wasn't a problem when I tucked the excess lace inside the boot.  I only stated I don't like tying a bow at the top of my boot, and having it exposed.

I am sure I will survive.

A method that you could try is: Wrap you laces around the boot once as I seen in your pick. Then do a Surgical knot. That is what I have been doing with all of my boots and the laces never come undone unless I loosen the knot. (Which is easier than untying a bow)
 
Wandered into Clothing Stores in Kingston: New brown boots are luck of the draw if you get them through the system. If you need special size (I fall inbetween sizes as the new Brown boots are the same sizes as the GPs and the new Desert Boots) you have to go to Foot Parade at the MIR, and get a chit for special size. As I was being told this, another civilian supply tech said that there was currently no contract to make a mold of feet for the special size footwear, and I'd be waiting for quite some time. Sounds like a fantastic system.
 
Clothing Stores in Kingston could not issue new type boot as they had plenty of GP's in stock in my size; needed a new pair as one of my sets of Danners finally bit the dust. As I can't wear GP's and have a chit for private purchase footwear, ordered a set of these;

http://www.danner.com/dannerr-rat-temperate-military-boots-24039.html

Best.Boots.Ever.... even compared to my Danner Acadias.

15630
 
PuckChaser said:
If you need special size (I fall inbetween sizes as the new Brown boots are the same sizes as the GPs and the new Desert Boots) you have to go to Foot Parade at the MIR, and get a chit for special size.

That is absolute BS.  If you have to get a special size due to orthotics or some other medical problem, then you need to get a chit.  If you just simply do not fit the boots provided the onus is on Supply to get you ones that fit.

At least, I think that's the way it's supposed to be.
 
PuckChaser said:
If you need special size (I fall inbetween sizes as the new Brown boots are the same sizes as the GPs and the new Desert Boots) you have to go to Foot Parade at the MIR, and get a chit for special size.
Echoing the post above but, this is false.  It is a supply responsibility to get you boots that fit.  If the standard sizes do not fit, it is still a supply problem.  Kingston should know better.
 
PuckChaser said:
Wandered into Clothing Stores in Kingston: New brown boots are luck of the draw if you get them through the system. If you need special size (I fall inbetween sizes as the new Brown boots are the same sizes as the GPs and the new Desert Boots) you have to go to Foot Parade at the MIR, and get a chit for special size. As I was being told this, another civilian supply tech said that there was currently no contract to make a mold of feet for the special size footwear, and I'd be waiting for quite some time. Sounds like a fantastic system.

I was sized before the end of the fiscal year, but then the contract didn't get renewed so I am currently waiting. Hopefully the same company gets the new contract, otherwise I'm going to have to get molded again...

All of this to get crap boots.
 
PMedMoe said:
That is absolute BS.  If you have to get a special size due to orthotics or some other medical problem, then you need to get a chit.  If you just simply do not fit the boots provided the onus is on Supply to get you ones that fit.

At least, I think that's the way it's supposed to be.

One issue is that 33 HSvcs @ Kingston is no longer issuing medical related footwear chits, either physio or the CDUs.
 
Kokanee said:
One issue is that 33 HSvcs @ Kingston is no longer issuing medical related footwear chits, either physio or the CDUs.

Really?  So then how does one go about getting "special" footwear?

It's like when you were a kid asking your parents about something:

"Go ask your mother..."  "Go ask your father..."

I'm just glad I've held on to my old combat boots (and bought my own desert boots).  Should not require any new footwear before I retire.  And I paid for my Vibram soles myself, instead of going through the medical system.  It would have taken too much time to get a referral, see the foot specialist, etc, etc.
 
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