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The David Ahenakew Thread- Merged

Probably not.  Acting rank is often used when someone is on vacation.  The fact that he refers to "there is a level of tension arising from the (Douglas Creek Estates) land reclamation issue" tells us that it will be more of the same. 
Yesterday I talked to a buddy of mine that is there right now.  He cautioned me that the line he was on was being monitored by the brass, and indicated to me that he could not speak freely.  I'm so thrilled Gwen is moving heaven and earth to shut down her men, and let the criminals enjoy their continuing party.
 
Unbelievable Zipperhead_cop
So more innocent people will inevitably be harmed before this is resolved then?

HL
 
Hot Lips said:
Unbelievable Zipperhead_cop
So more innocent people will inevitably be harmed before this is resolved then?

HL

In reality, yes. 
Doesn't have to be that way (emphasis on innocent people not being harmed) but there are no stones for it politically. 
Dolton will throw money at them, and reward criminality.  Hope no one had any summer plans for Sauble beach. 
 
Piper said:
If it had been a white guy saying it, he'd have been drawn and quartered in the media and left to rot in prison. My faith in our justice system has gone into the negatives, it was at zero but now....

Well said.  It is appalling that the law is not being applied equally.  We have 'hate laws' but if a member of a 'protected' group can break these laws at will-and even profit from record sales in Canada while doing so.

A rap artist by the name of Bizarre, (He's black.), released a song with the group D-12 entitled "crap on You".  It includes the following lyrics sung by him:

And all women ain't crap
Only good for cooking cleaning and XXXXXXXXXXXXX- and that's it

http://www.lyricsfreak.com/d/d12/crap+on+you_20035554.html

There's more similar references in this song, including a reference to intercourse with a 12 year old babysitter.  And our govt is too toothless to intrude on 'rights' of these 'artists' to publish garbage like this...but I suspect if a WASP espoused these convictions they would be savaged by the media and the legal system. >:(


(Moderator edit to remove offensive comment.)

 
I am curious how you know the words to that "song" (if that what you want to call it).  :-\
 
If anybody feels like having their say on Aunt Gwen, maybe you would be interested in this link:

http://www.petitiononline.com/Caledon1/petition.html

 
GAP said:
I don't quite "get" the masculinity issue here, but his comments are dead on regarding enforcing (or in this case - NOT ) the law
Really I got the intent. He talked about our stereotypical views of masculine/femine (weak female/strong male), and said lets put aside actual gender discuss the ideas behind masculinity/feminity, ergo the author was refering to the idea that people (men/women) who are "masculine" have the metaphorical cojones to deal with the tough issue and if if need be take the heat for their actions.  Whereas those who are feminine (again male or female) are the opposite.  And right now, our Premier, OPP Brass, and other government officials involved in this mess are being quite feminine in thier actions.  This is just IMHO though, what I thought the author was trying to get across.
 
Mud Recce Man said:
SO Zip.

whats the SITREP as of today??

Mud

Just a big holding pattern.  The province bought the land, and is not making the native criminals leave.  So, we can read from that if you occupy an area with violence, and you are native, expect the province to buy out the land from under the white devils feet and give it to you.  Sounds like a great precedent to set.  OPP wise they are settling into a Cypress-like long term operation (more money squandered on overtime by the province).  Look to see a Timmies open near the non-disputed part of the main road soon.
 
Todays laws for youngersters are not tought enough. In my opinion they can get away with anything. These children should have the same laws as adults due and even that those should be more strict too!
 
East coast shooter said:
Todays laws for youngersters are not tought enough. In my opinion they can get away with anything. These children should have the same laws as adults due and even that those should be more strict too!

Hey, welcome to the discussion!

Now feel free to actually read what it is all about and see that it is dealing with NATIVE issues.  :P 
 
Frog Fred friend fight foo fie  fum said:
Todays laws for youngersters are not tought enough. In my opinion they can get away with anything. These children should have the same laws as adults due and even that those should be more strict too!

OKay I know this guy is banned...but...wtf? 

Is that a tongue twister or what.  I am sure the "spell checker" would have crashed if applied on that one!
 
Mud Recce Man said:
OKay I know this guy is banned...but...wtf? 

Is that a tongue twister or what.  I am sure the "spell checker" would have crashed if applied on that one!

Something odd happened.  He was eastcoast shooter when he put up that post, and I don't remember him having nearly 160 posts.  Plus, his email address is a fake url that leads to some site called penis island.  Go figure. 
 
recceguy said:
:rofl: penis island  :cheers:

Perhaps I read that wrong.  I guess it's penis land.  Who knew such an area would be land locked? 

Hey, here is a great real estate offer!  Jump on board soon, quantities are limited.  Operators are standing by at 888-310-1122.  Just ask for Gwen.
 
Here is a great letter that I came across.  I don't know if it ever got printed (I highly doubt it).

To: Toronto Sun ; the barrie examiner ; Letter to Editor-Barrie Advance
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 6:11 PM
Subject: Letter to Editor - Money for Victims


On page 17 of the Sunday Sun, on July 16, 2006, I read a large court notice about the settlement money that's been set aside by the government regarding former Aboriginal students of residential schools and their families. Hearings will be held across Canada, and "at least 1.9 BILLION dollars" has been earmarked for these payouts.

Money for healing programs, research, documentation and community projects is in the range of over 200 MILLION dollars. "You don't have to show you were abused to get a common experience payment". You can appeal decisions if you don't agree with the settlement amount, and your legal representation will be paid for.

On page 28 of the same paper on the same date, there was an article that said the victims of abuse at a New Brunswick reform school would not be receiving any financial aid in their prosecution of a guard who was found guilty of sexually abusing children of the centre between the mid 1960's and the 1980's. He has admitted to abusing over 200 children that were sent to live at the school.

Two situations where kids were placed in government-run residences. Two situations where there was abuse and damage done to kids. If tax payers are forking over billions of dollars to one set of people for transgressions of the past (that most people today had no control over or involvement in), what's a few more million for the Fredericton victims? If the government thinks that heaping a never-ending pile of money onto victims is a way to correct the past (which it isn't - that is an individual journey), then why are some victims more worthy than others? What kind of precedent and message is going on here???  Yes, one is federal and one is provincial - something should be worked out nevertheless. Can someone say with a straight face that there couldn't be transfer payments made to help provinces with a victim fund? This kind of blatant inconsistency towards Canadians is outrageous and unacceptable. Help no one, or help everyone.


What was the Animal Farm quote?  "Some animals are more equal than others".

Here is another tidbit I came across.  Who wants to bet that it ends up being an area that was "stolen" 200 years ago.  Haven't heard anything to that effect, but it wouldn't surprise me. 

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/17072006/3/calgary-mining-company-finds-gold-minerals-near-bathurst.html
 
I am a firm believer that what may be called "discrimination" in some (and I do mean in some only) cases with certain groups in this country is the special treatment they receive from the government or what have you, that the rest of us don't/never did/never will get.  So THAT treatment is resented or produces ill feelings.

IF that theory is in any way correct, then the groups DEMANDING special treatment, and the people providing special treatment, are the ones at fault.

Not me, and others like me, for calling people on this crap, and not letting it die.

All the same, equal in the eyes of the government and country.  Until then...the problems will continue.

And I am sorry, if something, anyone alive NOW who is claiming this right and that right from something that happened 400 years ago...guess what?  You weren't here then.  Give it up.
 
If you want to open up a real can of worms.....What if in the recent killings of two Mounties in Saskatchewan, with one of them being Native, ended in a scenario like this:  Accused is captured, and taken to the Reserve where he sits in a Healing Circle.  Would there be any Equality or Fair Justice applied in this scenario?
 
George Wallace said:
If you want to open up a real can of worms.....What if in the recent killings of two Mounties in Saskatchewan, with one of them being Native, ended in a scenario like this:  Accused is captured, and taken to the Reserve where he sits in a Healing Circle.  Would there be any Equality or Fair Justice applied in this scenario?

No problem.  As long as the circle is a loop of rope, and the healing comes in the form of becoming one with the earth mother in the form of haning by the neck in one of her trees. 
 
zipperhead_cop said:
No problem.  As long as the circle is a loop of rope, and the healing comes in the form of becoming one with the earth mother in the form of haning by the neck in one of her trees.  

Or decomposing in the ground. Its quicker and it can be considered recyclying (for all the left wing hippy types)! :D
 
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