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The David Ahenakew Thread- Merged

paracowboy said:
ok, I'm gonna leave this thread for awhile. I'm not contributing anything but bile.

Actually, that is the best post on this topic I have seen so far.  Pea makes good points too in her post. 
When I was at OPC, there were five natives that started the course.  One guy, without warning, just told one of his pod-mates "I'm gonna go home" and walked out.  Walked back to north of Sudbury.  It was the third time at OPC he had done that. 
There was a native girl in my class that was easily 80 lbs over her ideal weight.  She would quit doing anything that she didn't like, and would cry when criticized.  FYI, natives do not have to pass the physical component of police college here in Ontario.  She also got caught cheating in class, which was also over looked.  Regardless of race, she was one of the most useless individuals I have met to date. 
However, the other three guys were stellar.  More fit than any of us, and usually had marks around the 90th percentile.  They were openly disdainful of the girl in my class, and had no use for natives that did not want to pull their weight.  Two out of the three did not grow up on a reserve, and the third one was from out west where he was so shunned by his family for being a go getter that he swore he would never go back.  I would be happy to go through a door with any of the three guys that stayed. 
Everybody should be judged on their merits.  "You are only as good as your last performance".  Whoever said that was pretty close to the mark.
 
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http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/004151.html
"Please Review Racial Purity Requirements Before Filing Your Complaint"
Well, I guess the next time someone spots a "Thanks for the truck, whitey" bumpersticker around town, they'll know who to complain to;
Trevor Baragar says he felt compelled to phone the police and the Saskatchewan Human Rights Commission after seeing someone display a sticker that reads, "Caution: I stop for all pedestrians, including natives".  Here though, is the really funny part;  He made a formal complaint to the Saskatchewan Human Rights Commission on Monday. He was told on Tuesday there was nothing it could do because he is non-aboriginal.  (Don't help the resident lefties with this one. Let them try to figure it out themselves.) Posted by Kate at June 18, 2006 01:25 AM



Wanted to point out that what that person at the SHRC said is not true - I dont know who they talked to, but it was either someone who didnt know what they were talking about or someone who just didnt want to deal with the complaint.   

You dont have to be a native to object a to anti-native statements, the same way you dont have to be Jewish to protest anti-holocaust statements.  This is one of the key principals behind the effort of eliminating prejudice and racism in the workplace, in that a third party who witnesses an event is encouraged to report any acts of prejudice or racism they witness (this same concept was used to deal with sexual harassment issues as well).  In the end, it doesnt matter what ethnicity (or sex) the person making the complaint is, what matters is whether a publicly visible statement or image is offensive and /or derogatory to a specific group of people...

 
Well, back at it again.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/cbc/s/20062006/3/toronto-six-nations-protesters-dig-caledonia-burial-ground.html
Six Nations protesters are digging at the site of a disputed land claim in Caledonia in search of an ancient burial ground.

Initial reports indicated the protesters occupying the construction site near Hamilton might be building a bunker.
Buddy Martin, a man who identified himself as a co-ordinator of the project to the Hamilton Spectator, refused to provide details, except to say they are excavating the site in hopes of finding thousands of bodies they believe to be there. He stressed the digging was not for militant purposes.

A survey done earlier for the developers, Henco Industries, found fragments of aboriginal artifacts, but no evidence of a burial ground.

Last week the Ontario government bought the land occupied by native protesters from Henco.
Protesters have maintained the property is part of a land grant dating from 1784, but provincial and federal governments insist the land in question was surrendered in 1841.

The province announced the purchase during a court hearing called to discuss why police have not removed aboriginal protesters from the Douglas Creek Estates construction site.

On the same day, the government increased aid to compensate Caledonia-area businesses hurt by road blockades to about $1.7 million.

Protesters have been occupying the housing development since Feb. 28.

Meanwhile, a woman facing charges of intimidation and robbery in connection with the swarming of an elderly couple's vehicle on June 9 made a brief appearance in bail court in Cayuga Monday.

Audra Ann Taillefer, 45, of Victoria, B.C., is one of seven people wanted on warrant after a series of clashes at the land-claims standoff. Her hearing was postponed to an unspecified date.
Police are still searching for the six others in connection with a series of violent incidents near the native barricade on June 9.


Now, I'm no expert in exhumation, but I have to believe that any process that could appear to be digging a bunker is somewhat of a disrespectful way to rampage through what is now being flouted as the proverbial "sacred burial ground"?  Funny if their archaeological technique involves zig zag trenches with interlocking fields of fire. 
And nice to see the white mans guilt price tag starting at $1.7 million.  Then you can add the cost of the land itself, the overtime cost for the police etc. 
Plus, now that the Province owns the land, there is no reason to make anyone do anything.  Sweet!  Take over a piece of land by hostile force, then get the government to pay off the aggrieved people, and then stay.  It's flawless!
 
You will notice that the Feds are totally hands off on this thing...They are letting McGinty (or whatever his name is) take all the hits on this.
 
More of my tax dollars wasted by the McSquinty government. ::) The elections can't come soon enough >:(
 
Well doesn't seem like a very sacred thing to be doing.
Will this ever end  ???

HL
 
Are our laws being applied equally?

No definitely not. 
Government of Canada makes agreements and selectively chooses to disregard them at times that are convenient to Canada.  Winnipeg city rightfully belongs to the Metis as an example.  Many many agreements, law abiding agreements, have been discarded over the years.  The law is a shady grey area that I know very little about.  The countries rights trump individual rights however, I think we'd all agree on that. 

 
Having been to Winnipeg, I think it would be a nice gesture to give it back  ;D
Thanks for popping in, Uber. 
 
UberCree said:
Are our laws being applied equally?

No definitely not. 
Government of Canada makes agreements and selectively chooses to disregard them at times that are convenient to Canada.  Winnipeg city rightfully belongs to the Metis as an example.  Many many agreements, law abiding agreements, have been discarded over the years.  The law is a shady grey area that I know very little about.  The countries rights trump individual rights however, I think we'd all agree on that. 

I agree that our laws are not being applied equally, natives attacking innocent people in broad day light and no arrests! Enough said!
 
"Having been to Winnipeg, I think it would be a nice gesture to give it back 
Thanks for popping in, Uber.  "


What would you say if they wanted TO......then again I would give TO to anyone.

Im only having fun with you Zipperhead...Im not trying to turn this into my cities better then your city......
 
Bobbyoreo said:
What would you say if they wanted TO......then again I would give TO to anyone.

Im only having fun with you Zipperhead...Im not trying to turn this into my cities better then your city......

I bailed on TO a long time ago.  So did my family.  You can give it to the Saudi's if you want.  Maybe they could purge all the hippie clowns.  :blotto:
 
Anyone disagree with the following assessment?


Matthew.  :salute:

Link:  http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=a575846e-7386-4de5-9fc2-b751897d099a

McGuinty's Caledonia gambit sets catastrophic precedent
David Warren, The Ottawa Citizen
Published: Wednesday, June 28, 2006

Dare I say that police work is a masculine activity? Always supposing that words can have any meaning.

This may be partly because most overt forms of criminality are also masculine activities, and it takes force to defeat force. Let us grant at least this much in extenuation of the poor female police officers, whom I have several times seen embarrassed at the front line of chaos where they have found themselves a few twitches short of the muscle they suddenly require, and in a place where the remark, "I'm a woman and you're hurting me!" has ceased to resonate the way it does in polite society. Indeed: one of the reasons tradition stipulated big, strong, tall police officers was so they needn't resort to firearms the moment things got out of hand.

But I don't want to reduce this to men and women. I shall try to keep today's column at the level of abstraction evoked by such words as masculine and feminine. There are, to use examples from current Canadian politics alone, tough masculine women like Rona Ambrose (whom no one could possibly mistake for a man), and weak feminine men like Dalton McGuinty (parenthesis suppressed). The ability to take a hard decision, stand ground and cope with the response, is not something nature has restricted to men.

Since time out of mind, policing, and the exercise of power behind it, has been associated with the masculine virtues. Not just "facing it down," but in a peculiarly masculine way -- there being, in the grand scheme of things, moments when talk and gestures, even empty threats, will have no discernible impact upon criminal behaviour, but superior force may still have some effect.

The whole country continues to watch the disintegration of civil society at Caledonia, Ont. The politicians may not get it yet, but my average reader will have no difficulty appreciating the connection between law and order in Caledonia, and wherever he or she lives. When public authorities lose the courage to enforce the law in any place, whether against privileged minorities or anyone else, public order begins to evaporate everywhere.

Those who have read some history know what happens next. When the Romans start withdrawing the legions from the frontier, you had better start digging your moat 100 miles inland.

I can add nothing to what is already widely reported in the media on Caledonia. There are no mysteries, no facts to dispute. Whatever validity the Six Nations' land claims may prove to have in some later retrospect, they had no validity when the thugs occupied the Douglas Creek Estates property. And the thugs remain, in direct defiance of the law.

The nadir was perhaps reached last weekend, when the Ontario Provincial Police revealed they were no longer offering police protection to homeowners trapped behind Six Nations' lines. These people had been paying taxes for police protection for many years, but their property and safety no longer counts. Instead, the luckless captives are now under the protection of an occupying force, one which has pledged to remove, in the fullness of time, everyone else, of non-aboriginal race, for 10 miles either side of the length of the Grand River.

Ontario's ruling politicians are congratulating themselves,because so far, thanks to their egregious cowardice, nobody in Caledonia has actually been killed. That is their standard for a successful result. It is a very odd standard. The same logic could be expressed in the sentence: "Until he kills you, you don't have a case."

It goes beyond this. There was an unambiguous court order for the police to remove the Six Nations blockades. It was ignored, by police and the politicians behind them. And since the last Superior Court hearing on June 16, the provincial government has been operating on the loopy legal theory that, by expropriating from its present owners the land Six Nations are claiming, and taking it "out of contention," the many violations of the Criminal Code that have already occurred become null and void. This is a legal theory unworthy of adults.

Dalton McGuinty would be an embarrassment in any political jurisdiction, but especially so in Ontario, where the rule of law had previously been enforced for more than two centuries. I do not think it will even be effective to give him and his party the pasting they deserve in next year's provincial election. It is too late for that, for in the face of escalating Indian land claims and radicalization right across the country, he has set a catastrophic precedent.

And yet, Mr. McGuinty and the other sorry creatures who warm the seats in his cabinet are not acting alone. They are not even making such decisions as they appear to make. They are instead passively accepting the wisdom of their social and ideological class, which holds that any expression of masculine assertion must necessarily be wrong.

David Warren's column appears Sunday, Wednesday and Saturday.

© The Ottawa Citizen 2006
 
I don't quite "get" the masculinity issue here, but his comments are dead on regarding enforcing (or in this case - NOT ) the law
 
GAP said:
I don't quite "get" the masculinity issue here, but his comments are dead on regarding enforcing (or in this case - NOT ) the law

+1.  I think the emphasis on the male/female at the beginning kind of prejudices the reading of the rest of the article.  Too bad, because the rest is right on and I'm betting there are more than a few people who wouldn't have finished reading because of the abrasive opening.
 
If anyone is interested, here is a link to the citizens gripes at Caledonia:

http://www.caledoniawakeupcall.com/

I only got it tonight, and have not had a chance to check it for content.  I guess that is a disclaimer of sorts.  However, if the site is great, I will likely take credit for bringing it forward  ;D
I did however find this gem:
 
Police plan heavy presence in Caledonia over weekend
 
By John Burman
The Hamilton Spectator
CALEDONIA (Jun 30, 2006)
Provincial police plan a heavy presence as the town celebrates Canada Day on the weekend.

Acting OPP Superintendent Doug Babbitt said police realize "there is a level of tension arising from the (Douglas Creek Estates) land reclamation issue," and will be there to keep the peace.

So did they shite-can the puppet????

 
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