US Presidential Election 2020

[QV]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6L5C0uLFjE&feature=youtu.be

Victor Davis Hanson on why this is one of the most important elections in American history: “this a progressive radical revolutionary effort to change the structure of a constitutional republic that was deliberately founded to protect the people from the mob...”

VDH gets it right. 

 

[brihard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6L5C0uLFjE&feature=youtu.be

Victor Davis Hanson on why this is one of the most important elections in American history: “this a progressive radical revolutionary effort to change the structure of a constitutional republic that was deliberately founded to protect the people from the mob...”

VDH gets it right.

It was also designed to separate powers between the executive, the legislature, and the judiciary such that they would balance each other and that no one branch could act to unreasonable excess. This is arguably one of the most essential elections in history from the standpoint of curbing gross executive overreach.

 

[QV]

It was also designed to separate powers between the executive, the legislature, and the judiciary such that they would balance each other and that no one branch could act to unreasonable excess. This is arguably one of the most essential elections in history from the standpoint of curbing gross executive overreach.

If you’re in favour of the separation of powers then you’d want the constitution to remain supreme and that’s not the agenda of BidenHarris.  VDH describes a number of things they’ve indicated they will change, from packing the SC, to abandoning the electoral college, in other words they’d get rid of or change the things that protect what you mention above.  They want to radically change the rules.

Assuming you’re suggesting Trump has demonstrated gross executive overreach, please provide some examples, particularly any examples that hadn’t been balanced out by the other branches. 

 

[Remius]

If you’re in favour of the separation of powers then you’d want the constitution to remain supreme and that’s not the agenda of BidenHarris.  VDH describes a number of things they’ve indicated they will change, from packing the SC, to abandoning the electoral college, in other words they’d get rid of or change the things that protect what you mention above.  They want to radically change the rules.

Assuming you’re suggesting Trump has demonstrated gross executive overreach, please provide some examples, particularly any examples that hadn’t been balanced out by the other branches.

This article names a few.

https://www.deseret.com/opinion/2020/8/12/21363638/trump-executive-order-pandemic-coronavirus-overreach-must-not-become-the-new-normal

 

[Good2Golf]

VDH describes a number of things they’ve indicated they will change, from packing the SC, to abandoning the electoral college, in other words they’d get rid of or change the things that protect what you mention above.  They want to radically change the rules.

By “packing the SC”, does VDH mean “effectively?”  You know, the opposite to how Trump tried to stack the SC?  ???

 

[QV]

By “packing the SC”, does VDH mean “effectively?”  You know, the opposite to how Trump tried to stack the SC?  ???

No, those are normal nominations.  The USSC has had 9 justices since 1869 and it should stay that way.  The dems want to jack that up to 15 and immediately appoint 6.  Then they will use this new activist majority to rule on situations like nullifying the electoral college.  You know, getting rid of all the things that have made the US the most sought after place to live on the planet.

 

[mariomike]

You know, getting rid of all the things that have made the US the most sought after place to live on the planet.

Remember when Americans crashed our immigration website on election night? 

 

[Remius]

No, those are normal nominations.  The USSC has had 9 justices since 1869 and it should stay that way.  The dems want to jack that up to 15 and immediately appoint 6.  Then they will use this new activist majority to rule on situations like nullifying the electoral college.  You know, getting rid of all the things that have made the US the most sought after place to live on the planet.

Something Roosevelt tried when he was in office.

Democrats seem a bit split on that though.    Biden opposed it back in 2019.  Has he changed his mind?

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/451778-biden-says-he-opposes-expanding-the-supreme-court

 

[Good2Golf]

No, those are normal nominations.  The USSC has had 9 justices since 1869 and it should stay that way.  The dems want to jack that up to 15 and immediately appoint 6.  Then they will use this new activist majority to rule on situations like nullifying the electoral college.

No, they would see 10 of the 15 appointed equally by the parties, 5 by the Democrat Party and 5 by the Republican Party.  The 10 would then appoint mutually the open 5.

 

[Donald H]

No, those are normal nominations.  The USSC has had 9 justices since 1869 and it should stay that way.  The dems want to jack that up to 15 and immediately appoint 6.  Then they will use this new activist majority to rule on situations like nullifying the electoral college.  You know, getting rid of all the things that have made the US the most sought after place to live on the planet.

A video over an hour long? IMO intellectuals usually get it about right so I set out to see it through. Then VDH screwed up his metaphor at about 7:40 so that ended it for me.

In any case, can you explain the important parts and include a time point?

 

[dimsum]

the US the most sought after place to live on the planet.

Until the GFC in 2008, I would have agreed with you wholeheartedly.  After the "rebound" in 2010 or so, I'd agree with you with some reservations.  Since January 2020, I'd be really interested to know if the US is still a sought-after destination for immigrants. 

I wouldn't be surprised if it slips a bit in the ranking of "sought-after countries to emigrate to" these days.

 

[Donald H]

Until the GFC in 2008, I would have agreed with you wholeheartedly.  After the "rebound" in 2010 or so, I'd agree with you with some reservations.  Since January 2020, I'd be really interested to know if the US is still a sought-after destination for immigrants. 

I wouldn't be surprised if it slips a bit in the ranking of "sought-after countries to emigrate to" these days.

They have the living space, they have a democracy, they have the climate, and they have opportunity as is proportinally superior to third world countries.

And then they have a great big problem: https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/canada-quality-life-number-one

#15 this year.

 

[QV]

This is one more thing this election is about.  With Biden, you'll get more of this. 

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/09/the-looming-threat-of-a-socialist-america/

As the far-left congresswomen known as the Squad celebrated their overwhelming victories in Democratic primaries earlier this year, far-sighted radical strategists were plotting to achieve their long-range goal — a socialist America governed by, in the words of the Marxist group Socialist Alternative, “a tested Marxist leadership.”
For those who say it can’t happen here, there are warning signs aplenty.

This was only some of the evidence of a revolutionary shift in the Democratic Party that is on its way to becoming the Socialist Party.

 

[Donald H]

:rofl:

No doubt, with Biden they will be as bad as Canada. :

 

[mariomike]

:goodpost: FJAG

, with Biden they will be as bad as Canada.

According to the link you posted, "Canada ranked #1 country in the world for Quality of Life in 2020".

You posted, United States ranked #15 this year.

And then they have a great big problem: https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/canada-quality-life-number-one

#15 this year.

 

[dimsum]

This is one more thing this election is about.  With Biden, you'll get more of this. 

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/09/the-looming-threat-of-a-socialist-america/

Only in the US would those women be "far left".  They would be at home in the Liberals, and prob too far-right for the NDP, in Canada.

 

[QV]

Only in the US would those women be "far left".  They would be at home in the Liberals, and prob too far-right for the NDP, in Canada.

If you suggest they would be at home with Trudeau’s Liberals, I agree.  Green New Deal here we come.

 

[RangerRay]

Wow. National Review used to be a respectable journal. I knew it’s gone downhill lately, but that is pure batshittery that would make those at Gateway Pundit and OANN blush.

William F. Buckley must be spinning in his grave.

 

[a_majoor]

We hear a lot about polls, but very little about the way they are conducted. After 2016, when Clinton was supposedly far ahead in the polls, you'd think that polls would be done differently to prevent such huge faceplants, but apparently not:

https://www.redstate.com/scotthounsell/2020/09/08/your-definitive-guide-to-understanding-polling/

While the article is fairly long, the level of detail is quite interesting. Here is a breakdown of one part of the poll which claimed Biden had an 11 point lead on Trump:

Now, as we look at the sample in the crosstabs section, on Page 20 of the poll, you will find the results of the question, “How enthusiastic are you about voting for President in the upcoming presidential election in November?”  Again, if you ask a question in a way that could lead to potential shame (enthusiasm for voting at all vs. enthusiasm in voting for a particular candidate) you’re going to get skewed results.  On page 21, let’s examine the 2020 vote breakdown and the Party ID breakdown.

In the 2020 Vote section it shows that Trump has a 86 to 82 advantage over Biden in any positive enthusiasm (Extremely, Very, Somewhat) section.  Remember, this poll gave Biden an 11 point lead on the topline.  Under Party ID, you’ll find similar results as 87% of Republicans have a positive enthusiasm (Extremely, Very, Somewhat) in voting in the Presidential Election, compared to just 70% for Dems.  Further down on Page 36 and 37 you will find the question, ” Who do you think will win the 2020 Presidential Election?”  Again, only 69 percent of Biden voters believe he is going to win, while 86% of Trump voters believe he is going to win.

These two questions show that Biden voters are neither as enthusiastic nor confident in their nominee as are Trump voters in theirs’.

Then how would this poll show Biden with an 11 point lead?  Simple:  Sampling is WAY off.  Depending on a poll, you may see a poll give one party a 3-5% advantage over the other. Much above that and your sample will taint the results of the poll.  In this poll, beyond the already-identified-above flaws with it, you’ll find they oversampled Democrats by nearly 10 points.

In Question #10, found on pages 24 and 25 of the results, respondents were posed, “If an election for president were going to be held now and the Democratic nominee was Joe Biden and the Republican nominee was Donald Trump, would you vote for…?”

This question was posed to just registered voters and gave Joe Biden a 51% to 40% lead in the poll.  Crazy, right?  Except on page 25, we can see how respondents answered and how many from each party answered. Of the 1,207 respondents to the question, 494 self-identified as Democrats and only 314 self-identified as Republicans (the remaining 399 were independent/third party). Simply put, of the respondents polled, nearly 41% self-identify as Democrats, while only 26% self-identify as Republicans.  A 15 point advantage for Dems built into the data.  That number isn’t included in the methodology… I wonder why??

So essentially polling is null data for the US election.

As an aside, I wonder now about Canadian polling - who is doing the breakdown of the methodology being used here?

 

[Donald H]

:goodpost: FJAG

According to the link you posted, "Canada ranked #1 country in the world for Quality of Life in 2020".

You posted, United States ranked #15 this year.

No, actually I didn't post "United States ranked #15 this year." I posted "#15 this year", after the link, which referred to that which is stated in the link.
But thanks for the reply!

l've posted that link other places too but Americans refuse to acknowledge the facts. They're apparently full of false patriotism that prevents them from understanding that they're being hoodwinked by the 1%. And I guess that consider Trump as daddy big bucks who tells them he'll fix everything. A real pity what's happened to that country in such a short time.