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US Presidential Election 2024 - Trump vs Harris - Vote Hard with a Vengence

you must have grown up in a richer farm area than me although I will concede thats mostly the case now. Most small farms arent even hobby farms anymore theyve just been taken over by horse people. The rest is pretty much leased out to cash croppers/dairy/chicken. Lots of money tied up
There were poorer farmers, but they were not really consider in the same group. People don't look at the farmer struggling to get by when they form their opinions of farmers in general. Just like we don't look at the honest politicians when we form our opinions of politicians in general.
 
you must have grown up in a richer farm area than me although I will concede thats mostly the case now. Most small farms arent even hobby farms anymore theyve just been taken over by horse people. The rest is pretty much leased out to cash croppers/dairy/chicken. Lots of money tied up

Out our neck of the woods farmers have become mini-corporations farming a dozen sections with really big trucks and tractors and very few people. Or else the land is being acquired by for Hutterite colonies.
 
We spent 4 years listening to that tripe. Suddenly when they win it isn’t rigged. Maybe just look at the voter turn out rates and eligible voters.

I’ll echo your sentiment of feeling sorry for victims of disinformation. But at some point watching self inflicted injuries turns from empathy to eye rolling and channel changing.

Oh I believe there were plenty of fraudulent ballots in 2020, the conditions were ripe for that... I also think there were fraudulent ballots in 2016 and 2024, just not enough to change outcomes because the conditions were not ripe enough. ;)
 
Maybe I’m too self delusional to see what is happening.
The first step to recovery is recognizing you have a problem.

Or could it just be that the charisma of a man like Trump has convinced many millions of Americans to swallow his snake oil remedy? Or is it Kool-Aid?
As of Wednesday morning, President-elect Donald Trump has earned more than 71 million popular votes.

Is it your contention that 71 million American voters are just rubes, that are so unintelligent, they aren't aware of what they are doing?

I guess maybe you're the only one in step.
 
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Wild claims? In other words, he didn’t do the things he did? And the people in top positions didn’t express their grave concerns about Trump in the most powerful position in the world?
Correct on the first two. As to the people in top positions expressing their "grave concerns", those are people who couldn't accept the boss gets the final decision.
 
There were poorer farmers, but they were not really consider in the same group. People don't look at the farmer struggling to get by when they form their opinions of farmers in general. Just like we don't look at the honest politicians when we form our opinions of politicians in general.

Out our neck of the woods farmers have become mini-corporations farming a dozen sections with really big trucks and tractors and very few people. Or else the land is being acquired by for Hutterite colonies.

at a million dollars for a combine, farming is a pretty serious small business. But this is today not when I was growing up. When tractors were a couple thousand dollars
 
The first step to recovery is recognizing you have a problem.


As of Wednesday morning, President-elect Donald Trump has earned more than 71 million popular votes.

Is it your contention that 71 million American voters are just rubes, that are so unintelligent, they aren't aware of what they are doing?

I guess maybe you're the only one in step.
Hitler and Mussolini also had huge numbers of followers. Does that mean that those two leaders were the best people to lead their respective countries? Numbers of followers means little. Somehow morality seems to be sadly forgotten. Ronald Reagan’s shining city on the hill now seems quite distant.
 
Hitler and Mussolini also had huge numbers of followers. Does that mean that those two leaders were the best people to lead their respective countries? Numbers of followers means little. Somehow morality seems to be sadly forgotten. Ronald Reagan’s shining city on the hill now seems quite distant.
As much as the man disgusts me. He's 78 yrs old. I dont see him as much of a threat as others
 
The first step to recovery is recognizing you have a problem.


As of Wednesday morning, President-elect Donald Trump has earned more than 71 million popular votes.

Is it your contention that 71 million American voters are just rubes, that are so unintelligent, they aren't aware of what they are doing?

I guess maybe you're the only one in step.
54% of Americans read at or below the 6th grade level.

So, Yes.
 
Correct on the first two. As to the people in top positions expressing their "grave concerns", those are people who couldn't accept the boss gets the final decision.
So Rex Tillerson, John Bolton, John Kelly and many others who had served with distinction in other administrations or in the private sector are all just sore losers and have no ability to assess Trump’s qualifications for the job? Prior to becoming POTUS, Trump screwed people big time in his business dealings. He has lied his way though life. Seriously, QV, how can you justify trusting someone like him in his new job even if a majority of people and the electoral college went in his favour?
 
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