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Yes, that is perfect thank you. I also managed to talk with the IC clerk at NDHQ and they confirmed it also doesn't that I am releasing.
Thanks for the help
Thanks for the help
andrewkw08 said:Yes, that is perfect thank you. I also managed to talk with the IC clerk at NDHQ and they confirmed it also doesn't that I am releasing.
Thanks for the help
winks2872 said:Good idea! Would you mind posting your rank / time served so we can put some of the numbers in context once you post them? When you went for the brief did they give you any personalized information like total amount into the LIRA? Also everything seems to be completed in 12 weeks.. Based on some people i know who have released 12 weeks seems to be really fast (one person I know took 8 months).
Thanks!
winks2872 said:Good idea! Would you mind posting your rank / time served so we can put some of the numbers in context once you post them? When you went for the brief did they give you any personalized information like total amount into the LIRA? Also everything seems to be completed in 12 weeks.. Based on some people i know who have released 12 weeks seems to be really fast (one person I know took 8 months).
Thanks!
Kirsten Luomala said:By clicking on his name and seeing his profile you will see Cpl 7 years thus entitled to 6 month release. Can be done faster if good reason however in my experience that only happens if there are compassionate reasons. Ie family death leaving a family business with no one to run it. Or if you entitled to a 30 day release like MM said. Release in 30 days memo in 9 Jan released 9 Feb started new job 10 Feb. Was a whirlwind month to get it all done.
ForeverLearning said:I know how vr'a worked in basic training but I'm not in basic anymore. I'm currently awaiting my 3s course and I've come to the realization that the CF lifestyle is not for me so Ive been juggling the idea of a VR before my course starts. What is the process? Is it a quicker release if I do it Pre-course? I don't want to ask my staff and be black balled for asking. I heard its a 30 day release period, but I've also heard of 6 months
ForeverLearning said:Has anyone had experience in releasing before their 3s course started? What was said, how long was the release and did they reject you or approve you. I figure if I do it before my 3s it would be an easier go as the crown hasn't put me through my course besides bmq
Also what is considered a compassionate reason for release
FOR PERSONNEL WHO HAVE LESS THAN THREE YEARS OF SERVICE BUT WHO HAVE COMPLETED RECRUIT TRAINING, PARTICULAR ATTENTION SHOULD BE PAID TO PARA 39 OF CFAO 15-2 WHICH STATES QUOTE A MEMBER . . . WHO . . . REQUESTS VOLUNTARY RELEASE WILL NOT NORMALLY HAVE THAT REQUEST APPROVED . . . FOR A PERIOD OF THREE YEARS COMMENCING FROM THE DATE OF ENROLMENT UNLESS COMPASSIONATE CIRCUMSTANCES EXIST UNQUOTE. THUS, UPON RECEIPT OF ANY REQUEST FOR RELEASE FROM A MEMBER WITH LESS THAN THREE YEARS SERVICE, THE AUTHORITY SHOULD CONSIDER PRIMARILY WHETHER OR NOT A COMPASSIONATE SITUATION EXISTS. ANY MEMBER UNDER THIS SITUATION WHO REQUESTS AN EARLY RELEASE WITHOUT A COMPASSIONATE CIRCUMSTANCE SHOULD NOT EXPECT THEIR REQUEST WILL BE APPROVED
ForeverLearning said:Also what is considered a compassionate reason for release
Andraste said:IAW with CFAO 15-2 (Release Regular Force) (37)
BASIC MILITARY OCCUPATION TRAINING
A member who enrolled on or after 1 Jan 82 and who, within the first three years of service requests voluntary release while undergoing basic military occupation training, will not receive approval except when compassionate circumstances exist.
However a CANFORGEN 022/03 Release in the first three years specified that:
REF: CFAO 15-2 ANNEX A PARA 37
THE PURPOSE OF REF WAS TO ENSURE A RETURN OF THE COST OF BASIC RECRUIT TRG. HOWEVER, IN THE CONTEXT OF INCREASED RECRUIT TRG AS WE ARE EXPERIENCING NOW, IT IS RECOGNIZED THAT HOLDING LARGE NUMBERS OF DEMOTIVATED / DISSATISFIED PERSONNEL ON BTL WOULD BE COUNTERPRODUCTIVE TO THE INCREASED RECRUITING DRIVE AND IS ADMINISTRATIVELY TAXING TO THE CF
EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY REF IS CHANGED TO: A MEMBER WHO WITHIN THE FIRST THREE YEARS OF SERVICE REQUESTS VOLUNTARY RELEASE WHILE UNDERGOING BASIC MILITARY OCCUPATION TRAINING WILL NOT RECEIVE APPROVAL UNLESS MILITARY AND PERSONAL REQUIREMENTS ARE COMPATIBLE. IN SUCH CASES THE APPROVING AUTHORITY AT NDHQ MAY REDUCE THE THREE YEAR REQUIREMENT
Given the above, my recommendation is to speak to your chain of command to determine if you meet the requirements for a VW. Your personal circumstances may weigh in the decision but the needs of the CAF will be considered as well. In your favor I note that you have a recruit school bypass. Specifically you have not incurred any training at CAF expense so this may also weigh into any decision about waiving the three year period.
Pegula37 said:I was told during basic to wait by my instructors till my next unit to hand in my VR memo
< snip > they tell me I should've done it there and VRs won't be accepted here
Pegula37 said:I was told during basic to wait by my instructors till my next unit to hand in my VR memo since I had legitimate issues going on with family. I wanted to finish my basic since I was so close and already there. Now arriving at my PAT platoon for infantry DP1 they tell me I should've done it there and VRs won't be accepted here and a fellow friend was told he was not allowed to OT. I plan on still writing the memo and submitting it but would like some clarity if there not just bullshiting since we have such low manpower
Pegula37 said:I was told during basic to wait by my instructors till my next unit to hand in my VR memo since I had legitimate issues going on with family. I wanted to finish my basic since I was so close and already there. Now arriving at my PAT platoon for infantry DP1 they tell me I should've done it there and VRs won't be accepted here and a fellow friend was told he was not allowed to OT. I plan on still writing the memo and submitting it but would like some clarity if there not just bullshiting since we have such low manpower
Pegula37 said:I was told during basic to wait by my instructors till my next unit to hand in my VR memo since I had legitimate issues going on with family.