Canada's tanks

[GK .Dundas]

Has anyone looked at the ability of the new Brazilian C 390 to carry them ? As I understand it the cargo compartment is slightly larger than the C 130 .

 

[Kirkhill]

Has anyone looked at the ability of the new Brazilian C 390 to carry them ? As I understand it the cargo compartment is slightly larger than the C 130 .

From available info.

 

[GR66]

Could definitely fit in an A400m. I believe a LAV6 would fit as well.

 

[Kirkhill]

Could definitely fit in an A400m. I believe a LAV6 would fit as well.

It's a slow night. It's either this or find something else to dodge the election news.

 

[KevinB]

It's a slow night. It's either this or find something else to dodge the election news.

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Stop taking Wikipedia data for the stats.

I already posted the USAF C-130 tech parameter that clearly shows the wiki table for at least the C-130 is incorrect

 

[Cloud Cover]

They have a picture of the SPH fully inside the C130. It does physically fit.
If you scroll down you can see a picture of it fully inside the c130

Denel G7 105mm - SPG | PDF | Shell (Projectile) | Artillery

The document discusses General Dynamics' 105mm LAV III Artillery Weapon System, which addresses the US Army's need for a highly mobile and lethal fire support system for Stryker Brigades. It summarizes the key advantages of the 105mm LEO howitzer developed by Denel over other options, such as...

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FJAG or others might know more, but if this was the prototype put together at GDLS London in 2003-2004, the LAV suspension was modified to fit it into the Herc, and the gun system for some reason was not well supported without the standard suspension. Also, when they fired the gun the back doors flew open and a lot of other things on the LAV broke. If this was the same gun … but I thought it was actually a 155 (or maybe a different project altogether).

 

[FJAG]

FJAG or others might know more, but if this was the prototype put together at GDLS London in 2003-2004, the LAV suspension was modified to fit it into the Herc, and the gun system for some reason was not well supported without the standard suspension. Also, when they fired the gun the back doors flew open and a lot of other things on the LAV broke. If this was the same gun … but I thought it was actually a 155 (or maybe a different project altogether).

I have zero knowledge about this except what I've found doing research on the WAFG project. When this was going on I was long gone from the gunners and with JAG.

I do know that pictures of it, and other representative systems, floated around at the time during DLR2 briefings as concepts for the "Future Indirect Fire Capability" project at the time that the M109s were withdrawn (2004-5). Those briefings emphasized that the project was unfunded and that with the M109s gone the artillery would have a ten-year capability gap.

Range and precision were the two major buzz words at the time. This was just when Excalibur was coming out (laser designated munitions - CLGP/Copperhead - had been out for some time). While the Denel product produced some decent range, precision generally fell to the 155mm calibre round. The M777 coupled with Excalibur offered both range and precision and quickly fell into favour as a result of Afghanistan field experience and in time went from a dozen UOR guns to 37 in-service guns.

There's almost always some form of indirect fire modernization project being handled by DLR 2 so they constantly stay on top of development. Serious funding for them is another issue entirely.

Incidentally, besides guns, the S Africans were doing some serious work on improving artillery ammunition to take both the 105mm and 155mm calibres out of the WW2 era.

@Petard is much more up on this than I am.