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Interesting. How do you see that developing of not France and Germany materially involved?
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Interesting. How do you see that developing of not France and Germany materially involved?
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UK is trying hard, but nuclear deterrence is nowhere in their wheelhouse.
Next best thing…SOF…
Britain to lead new NATO special ops force
The UK is preparing to assume leadership of the NATO Allied Reaction Force (ARF) Special Operations Component after completing a two-year programme of preparation, training and validation.
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I too hope The Vikings put the band back together. As long as they don’t start touring.
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There's always a possibility that Europe backslides. All that's needed is dissatisfaction among the peasants and a ruling class mostly interested in perpetuating its privileges and powers. Right now it's obvious that some European countries are disinclined to satisfy their median voters.
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I wasn’t talking about a backslide, I was looking for your thoughts on ‘if not France and Germany, where do you see the root(s) of a “strong and independent” Europe?’
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I don't see a strong and independent Europe any more than a strong and independent NA, SA, Africa, Asia, or any of the usual subdivisions of the above (eg. south Asia, or southeast Asia). Europe is fundamentally splintered and fractious. The only way I see for it to become less so is by formation of the smaller pieces into larger ones - including some potentially new ones - and that would be messy given the recent tendency of Europe to form more smaller pieces.
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I agree on the whole, though I think they France is a central driver in that consolidation, for amongst other factors, that it is in very little way of any, if being beholden to American pressure.
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Widukind's Saxons and Charlemagne's Franks remain two different people.
I think the opposite. He has used the threat to keep all the rest of the world in line. To lapse into my childhood for a moment: "Open this door or I will huff and I will puff and I will blow your house up". Almost the perfect weapon.
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Fair.
But under those circumstances does anybody actually need a working weapon? Or is a Schroedinger simulacrum sufficient?
Do you just have to cknvince peiple that you have the means to destroy the world?
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On the practical side I just asked how big a hole that new printed Aussie missile would make on its own. No payload, just the vehicle on its own.
Mach 7
300 kg
Dry soil
8 to 10 meter diameter and 2 m deep
Rock
6 meter diameter
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