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Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

The LPC is the political embodiment of the term strong opinions, loosely held
 
I really am trying not to get involved in this thread anymore but I just wanted to tag on to this.

This is what the CPC doesn't understand. The LPC runs campaigns on getting elected at all costs and the CPC runs on principals. The CPC needs to realize Canadians are generally ok with being lied too so long as the double doubles, HNIC and free healthcare keep flowing.

This isn't just a Liberal thing. It's a thing for dominant parties everywhere. Be that Ontario or British Tories. Heck, the Republicans in the US went from pushing free trade in the 80s and 90s to imposing tariffs in three decades. This is the nature of big tent parties. The swim with the current. If you ride against the current, based on principle, you will be a protest party that just gets elected less.

The Liberals were willing to make a guy who fires climate scientists and cancel carbon taxes their leader. What sacred cow would Poilievre be willing to slaughter to get his party elected?
 
This isn't just a Liberal thing. It's a thing for dominant parties everywhere. Be that Ontario or British Tories. Heck, the Republicans in the US went from pushing free trade in the 80s and 90s to imposing tariffs in three decades. This is the nature of big tent parties. The swim with the current. If you ride against the current, based on principle, you will be a protest party that just gets elected less.

This is a Liberal Gov thread.

The Liberals were willing to make a guy who fires climate scientists and cancel carbon taxes their leader. What sacred cow would Poilievre be willing to slaughter to get his party elected?

No idea, I am not PP and don't hold a CPC membership. Believe it or not I actually hold an LPC membership right now.
 
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Doesn't matter Canadians will defend it to the death as a beacon of all that is Canadiana holy!
With a few of the more common cancer types moving down from the 50-and-over bracket into the 30-50 bracket (and younger), people are going to be more interested in actually having a GP and having timely access to the first gateway (diagnosis) to receiving treatment. Or at least they should be.

I suspect that a lot of people procrastinate when access isn't easy.
 
Still wondering why the Liberals felt the need to move these committees "in camera" (latin in chambers basically secrecy)
-Ethics committee (This is really alarming especially since they were scrutinizing PM assets)
-Health committee
-Science and Research committee
-Transport, Infrastructure and Communities committee

As well, why did Veterans affairs committee get adjourned?

Anyone?
 
Still wondering why the Liberals felt the need to move these committees "in camera" (latin in chambers basically secrecy)
-Ethics committee (This is really alarming especially since they were scrutinizing PM assets)
-Health committee
-Science and Research committee
-Transport, Infrastructure and Communities committee

As well, why did Veterans affairs committee get adjourned?

Anyone?
Committees tend to bounce between in camera and public depending on what’s being discussed. Drafts of reports, for instance, will be discussed in camera to allow the committee to finalize.

Do the order papers for the committees on those dates give any indication of what was on the agenda? I would expect that of all the many parliamentary committees, at any given point there will be a few appropriately in camera for matters that merit it, before opening back public. Against historical committee activity are the past couple weeks anomalous?
 
Committees tend to bounce between in camera and public depending on what’s being discussed. Drafts of reports, for instance, will be discussed in camera to allow the committee to finalize.

Do the order papers for the committees on those dates give any indication of what was on the agenda? I would expect that of all the many parliamentary committees, at any given point there will be a few appropriately in camera for matters that merit it, before opening back public. Against historical committee activity are the past couple weeks anomalous?
Seriously thats your answer/non-answer?

Even pro liberal CBC pundits such as Chantel Hebert come out and calls this a stupid move.
 
Seriously thats your answer/non-answer?

Even pro liberal CBC pundits such as Chantel Hebert come out and calls this a stupid move.
I’m not answering. I don’t have the answer, I haven’t really been tracking this. I’m asking relevant questions with a bit of context for why I’m asking them. Given that you are paying attention to this I wondered if you had looked at these aspects. If not, that’s fine.
 
Committees tend to bounce between in camera and public depending on what’s being discussed. Drafts of reports, for instance, will be discussed in camera to allow the committee to finalize.

Do the order papers for the committees on those dates give any indication of what was on the agenda? I would expect that of all the many parliamentary committees, at any given point there will be a few appropriately in camera for matters that merit it, before opening back public. Against historical committee activity are the past couple weeks anomalous?


I've been following this and reading into it a bit. Agreed committees do routinely go in camera for things like draft reports or sensitive testimony.

My concern is more around the pattern and timing. From what I can see in the order papers and notices not all of these sessions were clearly tied to routine drafting stages and the grouping across multiple committees at once raises eyebrows. Especially when you consider it includes committees on Access to Information, and Privacy and Ethics. Tell me that's not suspicious.

It’s reasonable to ask whether this level of simultaneous in camera activity is typical or if it departs from past practice enough to warrant closer scrutiny.
 
I've been following this and reading into it a bit. Agreed committees do routinely go in camera for things like draft reports or sensitive testimony.

My concern is more around the pattern and timing. From what I can see in the order papers and notices not all of these sessions were clearly tied to routine drafting stages and the grouping across multiple committees at once raises eyebrows. Especially when you consider it includes committees on Access to Information, and Privacy and Ethics. Tell me that's not suspicious.

It’s reasonable to ask whether this level of simultaneous in camera activity is typical or if it departs from past practice enough to warrant closer scrutiny.
Rog, thanks for that. Gives a bit more context. I wonder what was up.
 
'Fast tracked' hopefully doesn't mean 'quality check compromised'....

Text of the article. It gives some necessary context. Looks like they’re basically looking to stabilize Labour in key sectors in small labour markets they could face disproportionate disruption from TFW changes.

“More than 30,000 temporary foreign workers who live in small, remote and rural communities will be able to apply for a fast track to permanent residency, under an initiative announced Monday by Immigration Minister Lena Metlege Diab.

Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada will accelerate permanent residency, or PR, for up to 33,000 temporary foreign workers in “in-demand sectors” such as agriculture and natural resources, trades and transportation, and health and caregiving.
IRCC said it has already granted 3,600 foreign workers permanent residency in January and February under the program, before the formal launch.

Toronto immigration lawyer Ravi Jain questioned how the department had granted permanent residency to people under the program even before it was announced. “I’ve never seen this before in my career. Usually you make an announcement and then you get the criteria and then you advise clients if they qualify or not.”

He said the program as a whole was disappointing as the government is drawing candidates from existing permanent residency programs.

“This is a total nothing-burger,” Mr. Jain said.
Last year’s budget flagged that the government was planning a one-time initiative to swiftly approve permanent residency for 33,000 work permit holders in 2026 and 2027.

On Monday, IRCC said the program supports its efforts to reduce the share of temporary residents to less than 5 per cent of the population by the end of 2027.

In its immigration levels plan announced in the budget last year, the government said that it would aim to admit 385,000 temporary residents in 2026 – about 43 per cent fewer than its 2025 target – and 370,000 in 2027 and in 2028.

The program, called the In-Canada Workers Initiative, will accelerate applications from existing inventories of work-permit holders who have already applied for permanent residency and live in rural areas and communities with labour gaps. Foreign workers who have lived in smaller communities for two years or more in certain in-demand sectors will be eligible to apply
The fast-track to permanent residency will be available to people who have already applied to settle in Canada through provincial nominee programs, which allow provinces to select foreigners to settle. Caregivers who applied for permanent residency through a pilot would also qualify to be fast-tracked.
Foreigners who have applied to settle here through a pathway for skilled foreign workers and international student graduates who live in the four Atlantic provinces would also be eligible to have their applications accelerated.
The program would allow foreign nationals who applied under community immigration pilots. They would have to live and work in 18 select communities, including rural and francophone ones, to have their PR applications fast-tracked.

Also eligible to have their applications accelerated are those who applied to remain in Canada through IRCC’s agri-food pilot program for experienced, non-seasonal workers, in certain food and agriculture jobs such as farm supervision, meat processing, and greenhouse production.

The immigration department said in a statement that the program is designed to “address labour shortages” in smaller and rural communities.

“By transitioning temporary residents who are already living and contributing to their communities to permanent residence, we’re providing the certainty and the stability needed to maintain and grow vibrant local economies,” Ms. Metlege Diab said in a statement.

IRCC plans to transition at least 20,000 workers to permanent residence under the program in 2026, and the remainder in 2027.”
 
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