Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[Czech_pivo]

Which begs the question is this legislation in good faith or a Trojan horse.




We use Life360.

Few years back my preteen daughter had some creep ask her for pictures of her feet. Mrs Jarnhammer caught it on some monitoring program we had installed. Her panicked response was to physiclaly rip the internet router out if the wall. I recall almost suggesting she could have just turned the router off instead, but kept that unhelpful advice to myself.

I've heard of 'life360' but have no personal experience with it. The only 'interaction' that I've had with it was my wife telling me that one of my daughters roommates and soccer teammates in PA has it on her phone and that the girl (19yrs old) is monitored CONSTANTLY by her mother. The mother tracks her daughters physical location 24/7 to the point that the Mother texts the daughter to ask stuff like, 'Why are you still in your dorm, shouldn't you be at soccer practice now?'......to which the daughter responded, 'Mom, its pouring rain out here, practice was called off.'

Now I know that things are different in the US due to the sheer volume of mass shootings, carjackings and other violent crimes (when compared statistically to us) and that sort of monitoring might be considered 'normal' in some locations in the US, but to me that's a bit over the top.

 

[Halifax Tar]

When my kids were younger had a device called - Circle - that we used to control/monitor their internet access. It's a great device and does a solid job on restricting access to sites/apps and for access to the internet. If her device(s) doesn't have a 'data package' but only wifi, this tool could be used to device usage and such.

It's simple to use/set up and a min. cost. I've included a link below.

Parental Wi-Fi Control Device & App for Families

The Circle Home Plus device for routers provides parental Wi-Fi control for all devices, plus you can manage mobile devices away from your home network.

meetcircle.com

I'm not really concerned with the content that she's consuming, it's more volume and time spent.

But I appreciate the link and will investigate!

 

[Jarnhamar]

Now I know that things are different in the US due to the sheer volume of mass shootings, carjackings and other violent crimes (when compared statistically to us) and that sort of monitoring might be considered 'normal' in some locations in the US, but to me that's a bit over the top.

You don't track your wifes location in real-time and text her to ask what's going on if she stops somewhere on the way to work? Do you even love her?

 

[Halifax Tar]

Which begs the question is this legislation in good faith or a Trojan horse.




We use Life360.

Few years back my preteen daughter had some creep ask her for pictures of her feet. Mrs Jarnhammer caught it on some monitoring program we had installed. Her panicked response was to physiclaly rip the internet router out if the wall. I recall almost suggesting she could have just turned the router off instead, but kept that unhelpful advice to myself.

Lemme know when you wanna ride brother, I have a slam fire '97, with a 2 foot bayonet that would love to chew up some more evil.

 

[Czech_pivo]

I'm not really concerned with the content that she's consuming, it's more volume and time spent.

But I appreciate the link and will investigate!

We used it mostly for the limiting of time spent each day on the internet and on certain games/app. Back then my son was a Minecraft nut ('To the mines with You!), and we could allocate a specific amount of time that he had access to it, down to which hour he could access it and for how long.

 

[daftandbarmy]

We used it mostly for the limiting of time spent each day on the internet and on certain games/app. Back then my son was a Minecraft nut ('To the mines with You!), and we could allocate a specific amount of time that he had access to it, down to which hour he could access it and for how long.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1779575420117016819

 

[lenaitch]

No offence intended but the parents at this point (mainly millennials) are the most digitally literate generation we have. Most children and teens aren’t nearly as literate on computers (computer literacy is actually measured as going down because schools stopped teaching it and smartphones/tablets are app based instead of showing the details behind it all).

What matters more is having parents who care to actually parent their children. The tools needed to control it are all there, unfortunately most are too busy or not interested in policing their childrens behaviour. There is a reason they are called the ‘Ipad kids’ because it is easy to stick them infront of it and let them rot their brains out instead of actually raising them.

Something does need to be done, the question is what and how extreme does it need to be. A good start would be banning all smartphones and tablets from school.

Numerous studies have shown a drop in education once those were introduced. It also kills socialization, feeds addiction (and yes we are all addicted to tech, at least the adults got a start in life without the more addictive than gambling technology in their faces 24/7), and drops literacy.

We are raising a bunch of useless addicted young adults who are going to fail in the real world and the first of them are starting to hit the workforce and fail there. Drastic changes need to happen before more and more get dragged into this. It is likely too late for many, the only hope is saving the next batch.

Personally as much as I am a big fan of freedom of speech, I think it actually might be best to go too far to start with, we don’t have time to fine tune it to begin with due to how long this has been allowed to go on for.

I largely agree. I wish such proposed legislation was not necessary, but it seems that much of the raising of kids has been abandoned to the Internet.

I argue that much of the younger generation is 'computer literate'. They might be literate as simple users, but I'm not sure they are literate with the workings and scope of the technology. When I was doing background investigations, I would often come across social media platforms with no filters or security settings, and disclosing personal information on open platforms thinking only the person they are chatting with at the time can see it. They might find a work-around for any age barrier, but I suspect most will simply pick a link or whatever off the Internet and copy/paste it.

I find it to be a curious crossover between helicopter parents who monitor their kids every twitch and move yet, at the same time, give them virtually unfettered access to the Internet (and the Internet to them).

It's going back some years now but I remember an orientation session when our daughter was getting ready to start university. They had a parents-only session where they had to lay out clearly that the students were adults, and the university will not provide information on where they are, what they are doing, how their marks are, etc. It had gotten to the point that some parents needed to be told that by other adults.

 

[Eaglelord17]

I largely agree. I wish such proposed legislation was not necessary, but it seems that much of the raising of kids has been abandoned to the Internet.

I argue that much of the younger generation is 'computer literate'. They might be literate as simple users, but I'm not sure they are literate with the workings and scope of the technology. When I was doing background investigations, I would often come across social media platforms with no filters or security settings, and disclosing personal information on open platforms thinking only the person they are chatting with at the time can see it. They might find a work-around for any age barrier, but I suspect most will simply pick a link or whatever off the Internet and copy/paste it.

When I say not computer literate I mean they have next to no understanding on how to use a computer. They understand how to use tablets and smartphones thanks to the ‘simplified’ user interfaces run through apps but those same kids don’t know how to use a folder on a computer or make a computer do what they want other than whats within a app.

Schools stopped teaching the basics, the ‘they will learn it naturally’ myth took over, and now they have realized it didn’t happen naturally.

In a lot of ways they are very similar to the boomers using computers.

Obviously there is exemptions but by and large computer literacy is down.

It makes sense, parents basically abandoned their kids to the internet. Generations before abandoned their kids to the outside world. The difference being the internet is much more corrosive for youth.