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Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

What the hell is Marc Miller yammering about? He is making up shit to sell a bad bill.

And the Liberal defenders come in at 3..2..
No he’s not. This has been covered in the ‘exploiting/radicalizing youth’ thread.


I won’t speak to the merits of the pending Digital Safety Act bill because it’s not yet tabled for us to look at. But I do know that at least in part it’s to be aimed squarely at online predation of youths - much of it very deliberate and some actually crossing into listed terrorism entities - that has cost a number of lives through suicide.

Obviously this isn’t something that will be meaningfully discussed in the length of a media sound bite, and without seeing what’s actually out forward in Parliament it’s tough to assess. We may see the under-16 social media restrictions, and probably some components of the former Bill C-63 Online Harms Act.
 
Is that the bill to keep social media from those under 16 ?

The legislation is aimed at that, I think it's separate from the actual online harms act bill.

The first thing I noticed is "there will be exceptions", so we'll see how effective it actually is.

One concern people have is the Liberal government using this as a cover to push ID verification for adults.

Australia has an under 16 ban (where the platforms are held accountable) and they do it without strict ID verification. It also sounds like the majority of kids can circumvent the age verification anyways and it's not very effective.
 
The legislation is aimed at that, I think it's separate from the actual online harms act bill.

The first thing I noticed is "there will be exceptions", so we'll see how effective it actually is.

One concern people have is the Liberal government using this as a cover to push ID verification for adults.

Australia has an under 16 ban (where the platforms are held accountable) and they do it without strict ID verification. It also sounds like the majority of kids can circumvent the age verification anyways and it's not very effective.
While I personally think this legislation is useless, drinking ages exist in this country despite there being multiple ways to circumvent it.

Just because something can be circumvented does not inherently make it not worthwhile to do.
 
While I personally think this legislation is useless, drinking ages exist in this country despite there being multiple ways to circumvent it.

Just because something can be circumvented does not inherently make it not worthwhile to do.

Would you be comfortable sending the mods a copy of your government ID to post here?
 
Would you be comfortable sending the mods a copy of your government ID to post here?
VPNs exist for a reason. Canada? Nah mate, i live in Mexico, rules dont apply.

Buy even then, as more and more sites do this, the pattern has been clear. They do this for new accounts, not older ones. They also flag accounts that are exhibiting signs of being under the age threshold.

Discord is implementing age controls. 90 percent of users wont need to show any government ID because of their preexisting account behaviour.
 
VPNs exist for a reason. Canada? Nah mate, i live in Mexico, rules dont apply.
Sounds like more and more VPN companies are gearing up to abandon Canada if the government goes through with Bill C-22.

It's also all too easy for websites to deny access to users using VPN's.
 
Sounds like more and more VPN companies are gearing up to abandon Canada if the government goes through with Bill C-22.

It's also all too easy for websites to deny access to users using VPN's.
things to navigate for sure, but I'll save my indignation for when I see the text of the bill.
 
things to navigate for sure, but I'll save my indignation for when I see the text of the bill.

I like the premise of keeping social media away from kids under 16, especially with the abundance of disconnected parents we have.

The LPC is hardly deserving of Canadians trust after the last 11 years however. The urgency they're trying to push bill C-22 through with should give anyone for concern. The lack of trust carries over to the under 16 legislation.
 
The legislation is aimed at that, I think it's separate from the actual online harms act bill.

The first thing I noticed is "there will be exceptions", so we'll see how effective it actually is.

One concern people have is the Liberal government using this as a cover to push ID verification for adults.

Australia has an under 16 ban (where the platforms are held accountable) and they do it without strict ID verification. It also sounds like the majority of kids can circumvent the age verification anyways and it's not very effective.
When I can't figure out something on my computer I ask my grandkids. Even the 9 year old is able to help grandpa so I doubt short of developing foolproof digital id they will be able to keep any teen that wants on them away from the web sites. I wish it were otherwise
 
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