Has the Carney Liberals broken a vow with Veterans and First Right of Refusal by the Commissionaires?

[George Wallace]

There is a finders fee for getting new recruits and they actively want more veterans. Put there are far less veterans now and the pay is not great. That being said they are one of the best security companies to work for and won't screw their people over, which most security companies are famous for.

Actually there is. Perhaps $100 in the NCR Corps of Commissionaires. Although the administration of it is sloppy. When I was Duty CWO in 101, I encouraged a former RCR to join, but the bureaucratic paperwork got lost, and I never worried about it. The promised increase in pay that never came was another point.

 

[George Wallace]

The benefit to veterans was a super easy job search.

Actually, in Ontario, they have to pass the same Provincial test as any other Security Guard.

Perhaps the $75 and testing turn off a few; even if they get reimbursed.

 

[George Wallace]

Heres a idea, maybe we should have our own troops keeping guard at the bases like the States and most other serious militaries do.

If it wasn’t for the fact most people don’t wish to do us harm, our bases are just one crazy guy away from a lot of casualties.

Commissionaires don't just work for DND, they fill positions at Federal, Provincial and even municipal government locations.

 

[George Wallace]

Don't forget, "First Right to Refusal" does not mean that the Commissionaires will get the job. It means that they get the first right to apply for the job. There are many that they have to refuse due to lack of manpower or whatever other faactors there may be that they can not perform the duties required.

 

[McG]

Commissionaires don't just work for DND, they fill positions at Federal, Provincial and even municipal government locations.

They also work for private business.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

They also work for private business.

Yes they have one high end cosmetic store in Vancouver, apparently they treat the guards poorly.

 

[brihard]

Actually, in Ontario, they have to pass the same Provincial test as any other Security Guard.

Perhaps the $75 and testing turn off a few; even if they get reimbursed.

Yup, I know- they briefly hired me in Ontario. Because I walked in the door with a service number it was a matter of get my guard application off and get me through the training and formalities ASAP.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

I know several people who went into law enforcement , who also did security guard work. Most said it was very useful, as it gave them hands on experience , dealing with all sorts of people, something the schools can't teach. Be interesting to see how many LEO's had prior security guard experience and how that is weighed in application reviews?

 

[brihard]

I know several people who went into law enforcement , who also did security guard work. Most said it was very useful, as it gave them hands on experience , dealing with all sorts of people, something the schools can't teach. Be interesting to see how many LEO's had prior security guard experience and how that is weighed in application reviews?

Not that many overall that I’ve worked with actually. Some, but not a large amount.

I got hired but never actually worked the job; my regiment offered me a ton of work a couple days later while waiting for my guard license and everything about that was way better.

 

[Kilted]

I know several people who went into law enforcement , who also did security guard work. Most said it was very useful, as it gave them hands on experience , dealing with all sorts of people, something the schools can't teach. Be interesting to see how many LEO's had prior security guard experience and how that is weighed in application reviews?

Security is one of those industries where you can get people who are very good at their job, and then get people who are completely useless at their job.

 

[Maxman1]

M-ford

Were you tipping a fedora when you typed that?

 

[MilEME09]

Heres a idea, maybe we should have our own troops keeping guard at the bases like the States and most other serious militaries do.

If it wasn’t for the fact most people don’t wish to do us harm, our bases are just one crazy guy away from a lot of casualties.

You mean make MPs do something more than chill in the Tim's parking lot? Seriously, how much money could be saved if MPs did the job of the commmisionaires? Heck could do a couple class Bs for over night shift at reserve facilities.

 

[Czech_pivo]

You mean make MPs do something more than chill in the Tim's parking lot? Seriously, how much money could be saved if MPs did the job of the commmisionaires? Heck could do a couple class Bs for over night shift at reserve facilities.

I'm old enough to remember the 'good old days' on Parliament Hill around 1990-92 when I used to be able to walk right in the front door of Centre Block and on through to the 2nd floor where I had friends working for various MP's during the summer months. I would be asked by one of the 'guards' about 1 in 3 times where I was going. I was never not permitted to continue on my way to visit a friend or hit the basement cafe when I was asked where I was going and who I was seeing.....and I had no id badge on during any of these visits.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

I'm old enough to remember the 'good old days' on Parliament Hill around 1990-92 when I used to be able to walk right in the front door of Centre Block and on through to the 2nd floor where I had friends working for various MP's during the summer months. I would be asked by one of the 'guards' about 1 in 3 times where I was going. I was never not permitted to continue on my way to visit a friend or hit the basement cafe when I was asked where I was going and who I was seeing.....and I had no id badge on during any of these visits.

A lot of that is based on what the client wants, most balk at strict security measures that inconveniences them, so the guards are told to pull back. When we had the Seaspan contract, it was expected that you check everyone's ID that wanted to come onto the site and we had to confirm with management before letting anyone not on the list access to the site.

 

[ytz]

You mean make MPs do something more than chill in the Tim's parking lot? Seriously, how much money could be saved if MPs did the job of the commmisionaires? Heck could do a couple class Bs for over night shift at reserve facilities.

It's kinda not the job of MPs though.....

 

[mariomike]

You mean make MPs do something more than chill in the Tim's parking lot?

Police have to do their chillin' in parking lots and other public spaces, as they are on mobile standby.

At least the other two emergency services get to chill between calls , out of the public eye , in the comfort and privacy of their stations,

 

[YZT580]

For those of you who cheer for Carney, his government has just awarded a 12 million dollar contract to an American firm that provides security for ICE. Their bid was 80,000 less than the commissionaires'. Elbows up, by Canadian. Carney appears to have learnt his ethics from Justin. And the same article has overall contracts with U.S. firms up by 5% over last year. The article is in the Toronto Sun. Going on standby now and waiting for the explanations.

 

[captloadie]

For those of you who cheer for Carney, his government has just awarded a 12 million dollar contract to an American firm that provides security for ICE. Their bid was 80,000 less than the commissionaires'. Elbows up, by Canadian. Carney appears to have learnt his ethics from Justin. And the same article has overall contracts with U.S. firms up by 5% over last year. The article is in the Toronto Sun. Going on standby now and waiting for the explanations.

You mean a firm whose subsidiaries also provide security for the majority of banks in Canada and is one of the main security companies in the World? A Company that is known globally for its commercial security forces?

 

[The Bread Guy]

For those of you who cheer for Carney, his government has just awarded a 12 million dollar contract to an American firm that provides security for ICE. Their bid was 80,000 less than the commissionaires'. Elbows up, by Canadian. Carney appears to have learnt his ethics from Justin. And the same article has overall contracts with U.S. firms up by 5% over last year. The article is in the Toronto Sun. Going on standby now and waiting for the explanations.

For reference ...

EDITORIAL: Canada sacrificing security for trade

The arrest of a Canadian NATO intern on suspicion of spying renews concerns about Mark Carney’s “strategic partnership” with China on trade.

torontosun.com

 

[PPCLI Guy]

For those of you who cheer for Carney, his government has just awarded a 12 million dollar contract to an American firm that provides security for ICE. Their bid was 80,000 less than the commissionaires'. Elbows up, by Canadian. Carney appears to have learnt his ethics from Justin. And the same article has overall contracts with U.S. firms up by 5% over last year. The article is in the Toronto Sun. Going on standby now and waiting for the explanations.

For the of you who cheer for facts, the decision was made by the last government. One of the main reasons cited is that Veteran employment fell well below the 60 that the original post war mandate demanded.

AI Overview


The Treasury Board of Canada decision to rescind the Common Services Policy officially revoked the original framework establishing the Right of First Refusal (RFR) for the Canadian Corps of Commissionaires. This structural policy change took effect on March 31, 2023. [1]

Context & Implementation Timeline

• The Transition Period: When the Treasury Board rescinded the historical policy in early 2023, authority was delegated to the Department of Veterans Affairs (VAC) to implement a temporary Policy on Procurement of Guard Services. This extension kept the RFR active strictly through a three-year evaluation period slated to end on March 31, 2026. [1]
• The Final Termination Notice: Following that evaluation period, Veterans Affairs Minister Jill McKnight issued a formal notification to the Commissionaires in February 2026. The notice confirmed that the preferential entitlement will officially terminate in April 2027 following a one-year grace period designed to transition federal guard services to a fully competitive procurement process. [1, 2, 3]