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Re: New Ontario Government 2018
« Reply #250 on: October 05, 2018, 08:25:24 »
HEALTHFord government increases hospital funding by $90 million to address overcrowding
https://thenectarine.ca/news/ford-government-increases-hospital-funding-by-90-million-to-address-overcrowding/

Opinions,

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TORONTO, Oct. 03, 2018

Doug Ford cuts hospital beds and funding – calls it an increase, says Ontario Health Coalition
https://globenewswire.com/news-release/2018/10/03/1601051/0/en/Doug-Ford-cuts-hospital-beds-and-funding-calls-it-an-increase-says-Ontario-Health-Coalition.html

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TORONTO, Oct. 3, 2018

Registered Nurses Association of Ontario ( RNAO )

Adding flu season surge capacity to hospitals will not resolve hallway health care
https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/adding-flu-season-surge-capacity-to-hospitals-will-not-resolve-hallway-health-care-695097571.html
"On a day that the government announced it would address hallway health care, its officials ordered Registered Nurses' Association of Ontario (RNAO) staff to leave the media conference, stranding President Angela Cooper Brathwaite in a hallway at Queen's Park."

"RNAO says the $90 million to add beds falls far short of the $187 million the Kathleen Wynne government promised to spend in the 2018-2019 budget year before losing power in the June provincial election."

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Re: New Ontario Government 2018
« Reply #251 on: October 05, 2018, 11:11:00 »
I  was going to say wow those are two very different takes.  Sorry but as it were I have a little more faith that the hospitals will see the 90 million Ford is promising than the 187 million Wynne promised. 
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Re: New Ontario Government 2018
« Reply #252 on: October 05, 2018, 11:52:28 »
Nothing new about "hallway medicine". We called it "the Hall of Shame".

The official name is Off-Load Delay ( OLD ).

In Metro, OLD increased from 35 minutes in 2000 to 70 minutes by 2008. I retired in 2009.

The OLD standard is 30 minutes. With our growing and aging population, OLD will remain a challenge.

The Community Paramedicine Program provides the most appropriate patient treatment and reduces trips to the ER. This in turn helps reduce "hallway medicine". That's the theory, anyway.


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Re: New Ontario Government 2018
« Reply #253 on: October 05, 2018, 11:58:48 »
I  was going to say wow those are two very different takes.  Sorry but as it were I have a little more faith that the hospitals will see the 90 million Ford is promising than the 187 million Wynne promised.

It’s 187 million the Liberals didn’t have nor was willing to find.  With Ford I think it is 90 million he’ll find.
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Re: New Ontario Government 2018
« Reply #254 on: October 05, 2018, 14:40:23 »
Regarding the future of health care in Ontario, and the Ontario Conservative Party, this was written just before the election.

Have to see how it goes this time around.

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For the last 20 years health care has been the Tories' biggest image issue, with memories still sharp of the 1990s when the Mike Harris government ordered 28 hospitals closed and fired 6,000 nurses.

Harris ignited a firestorm of protests when he suggested nurses were as obsolete as hula-hoop makers. "Just as hula hoops went out and those workers had to have a factory and a company that would manufacture something else that's in, it's the same for government," Harris said.
https://www.thespec.com/opinion-story/8628234-if-ford-wins-prepare-for-even-harder-times-in-health-care/

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Re: New Ontario Government 2018
« Reply #255 on: October 20, 2018, 11:00:01 »
Ontario bill aims to strip returning terrorists of provincial privileges

With a quarter of the nearly 200 Canadian members of overseas terrorist groups returning home and at least a dozen more held in Syrian detentions camps, an impending private-members bill will ensure they’re not entitled to benefits enjoyed by law-abiding Ontarians, the Sun has learned.

Set to be tabled at Queen’s Park next week, the Terrorist Activity Sanctions Act targets those who’ve carried out terrorist acts abroad and excludes them from such privileges as holding an Ontario driver’s licence or accessing provincial health coverage.



https://torontosun.com/news/provincial/ontario-bill-aims-to-strip-returning-terrorists-of-provincial-privileges?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1539995227
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Re: New Ontario Government 2018
« Reply #256 on: October 20, 2018, 17:09:44 »
Thanks for sharing that Jarnhamar. I hope it goes through.

I'd also like Ontario to consider a registry for terrorists. I think communities deserve to know who they have in their midst.

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Re: New Ontario Government 2018
« Reply #257 on: October 20, 2018, 18:21:06 »
Saw that on CP24.

They said, "It's not clear how the proposed Bill will work if the alleged offenders are not convicted of any crimes in court."

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Re: New Ontario Government 2018
« Reply #258 on: October 20, 2018, 18:32:30 »
How it will work? They will be move in next door to you and your family. That's how it will work.

How does that make you feel?

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Re: New Ontario Government 2018
« Reply #259 on: October 20, 2018, 18:41:43 »
They will be move in next door to you and your family.

That's not what CP24 said,

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"It's not clear how the proposed Bill will work if the alleged offenders are not convicted of any crimes in court."

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The proposed Bill ( Reply #255 ) is only about driver’s licence and health coverage.

Nothing in it about where people can, or can not, live.

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Re: New Ontario Government 2018
« Reply #260 on: October 20, 2018, 18:50:22 »
Sorry, I was speaking directly to what will happen if they aren't convicted in court. I stand behind my comment still.

I'm betting this will get squashed somehow, and they will move in next door to you with health care and driving privileges intact. They will probably get some form of stipend, and free education.

Anyone want to bet?

Anyways, good on the Ontario government for trying to do what they can. Now awaiting the outcry over human rights.
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Re: New Ontario Government 2018
« Reply #261 on: October 20, 2018, 22:57:58 »
CP24
"It's not clear how the proposed Bill will work if the alleged offenders are not convicted of any crimes in court."

Global News clarified the proposed Bill will only apply to convicted  terrorists.
https://globalnews.ca/news/4575780/ontario-bill-strip-returning-terrorist-benefits/
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Re: New Ontario Government 2018
« Reply #262 on: October 24, 2018, 14:35:40 »
Carbon tax is such a bullshit thing. It's just a slush fund for the Liberal government.


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TORONTO — Ontario Premier Doug Ford has come out swinging against Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s plans for carbon tax rebates.

Trudeau announced details of the plan Tuesday, saying provinces that have not implemented their own carbon taxation system will have one imposed on them by the federal government.


https://thenectarine.ca/business/doug-ford-slams-trudeau-and-federal-carbon-tax-plan/


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Re: New Ontario Government 2018
« Reply #263 on: November 15, 2018, 13:57:49 »
Seems like a better plan than raising minimum wage.


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The Ford government is introducing a new tax credit that will exempt minimum wage earners from provincial exempt tax and says its cost-cutting measures have reduced the 2018 deficit to $14.5 billion.

Finance Minister Vic Fideli's first fall economic statement tabled Thursday afternoon also includes new expanded hours for booze sales in Ontario and a new loophole exempting all new rental housing from rent controls starting tomorrow.

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The signature move in the document is a new Low-income Families and Individuals Credit that will save a minimum wage earner up to $850 per year and minimum wage-earning families up to $1,700 per year.

This is still less than low-wage workers would have taken home if the Ford government continued with a planned increase in the minimum wage from $14 to $15 per hour, which was set to take effect in January before it was cancelled.



https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ford-gov-t-says-deficit-reduced-to-14-5b-with-new-suite-of-cost-cutting-measures-1.4178057?fbclid=IwAR2F1m9j4TGQXO8Duo2BNXGiOVN4kBGLHu1F42Wtk31TFxUUBTFwGJ6uoWs
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Re: New Ontario Government 2018
« Reply #264 on: November 15, 2018, 14:32:11 »
Seems like a better plan than raising minimum wage.

 

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ford-gov-t-says-deficit-reduced-to-14-5b-with-new-suite-of-cost-cutting-measures-1.4178057?fbclid=IwAR2F1m9j4TGQXO8Duo2BNXGiOVN4kBGLHu1F42Wtk31TFxUUBTFwGJ6uoWs

If they went to the $15/ hr, their taxes would go up and they'd likely see less money in their pocket.

The liberals didn't do this to help the poor, they did it to collect more taxes.

Ford's decision cuts through the bullshit and leaves the money with the taxpayer.

There's going to be a lot of tough decisions as the Conservatives try to dig out Ontario from under the liberal debt. Lot's of people aren't going to like the belt tightening. I'd rather bite the bullet and tackle the problems now though, than kick the can down the road until the socialists take over again to add to what they've already done.

Funny I don't hear anyone that works for a living and pays taxes to support all those that won't, complaining about the plans.
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Re: New Ontario Government 2018
« Reply #265 on: November 15, 2018, 15:26:37 »
The liberals didn't do this to help the poor, they did it to collect more taxes votes.

You display more kindness than they deserve ...

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Re: New Ontario Government 2018
« Reply #266 on: November 28, 2019, 11:30:41 »
Figured this might a be a good place to post this.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-premier-doug-ford-prime-minister-justin-trudeau-1.5375495

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Re: New Ontario Government 2018
« Reply #267 on: February 21, 2020, 16:38:58 »
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For the first time in 24 years all four major teachers unions in Ontario are on strike the same day, shutting the province’s public education system and leaving more than two million school children out of class.

The unions, representing nearly 200,000 teachers and education workers, are calling on the government to back down on cuts to education.

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https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/provincewide-strike-sees-two-million-ont-schoolchildren-out-of-class-1.4822131

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-teachers-provincewide-strike-1.5470980

https://globalnews.ca/news/6575272/ontario-wide-teachers-strike/
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Re: New Ontario Government 2018
« Reply #268 on: February 22, 2020, 13:35:19 »
You'd think that they were Ontario school teachers.  :pop:
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"Ford's government announced last spring it would increase average high school class sizes from 22 to 28 and require students to take four e-learning courses to graduate.

Lecce has since offered to instead increase average high school class sizes to 25 and require two online learning courses, but the unions have been pressing for no class size increases and for no mandatory e-learning courses."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-teachers-provincewide-strike-1.5470980

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Re: New Ontario Government 2018
« Reply #269 on: February 22, 2020, 13:59:49 »
You'd think that they were Ontario school teachers.  :pop:

"Ford's government announced last spring it would increase average high school class sizes from 22 to 28 and require students to take four e-learning courses to graduate.

Lecce has since offered to instead increase average high school class sizes to 25 and require two online learning courses, but the unions have been pressing for no class size increases and for no mandatory e-learning courses."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-teachers-provincewide-strike-1.5470980

What is missing almost entirely from mainstream media and all the resentment against the teachers is that the e-learning portion, regardless of how many in total (2 or 4) is flat-out not working.

I know of at least 8 instances personally, in multiple school boards, where students were unable to register for the required e-learning classes, as they were rendered “full.” (And no, they didn’t miss registration periods.) In addition, 4 of which needed these courses to graduate successfully. Because of this, alternate post-secondary majors were no longer an option due to the missing prerequisite, and/or the students are having to wait and reapply next year.

My brother is a high-school teacher in one of Ottawa’s top-rated high-schools. His wife is an elementary school teacher, also in Ottawa. The personal experiences and concerns surrounding the teacher’s positions in all of this is staggering. Are these strikes a nuisance and inconvenient? Absolutely. (I’m fortunate in that my current posting is highly accommodating wrt arrangements needed for my son. I feel sorry for those many families which aren’t so lucky.) But the teacher’s positions are founded, and before talks broke down earlier, they were ready to settle on 3 of the 4 main issues surrounding the strike. The Ford government refused to budge on the 4th and the teachers wouldn’t either. I don’t blame them.

The next major move currently still in the rumour mill is week-long strikes. This is all on the Ford government, as far as I’m concerned. The majority of society believe teachers have it made in this province. That is hardly the case.
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Re: New Ontario Government 2018
« Reply #270 on: February 22, 2020, 14:12:02 »
So if students miss a whole bunch of school and everyone still graduates, would people be amiss in believing that there is significant fluff in the curriculum and that maybe teachers don't deserve more?    :whistle:

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Re: New Ontario Government 2018
« Reply #271 on: February 22, 2020, 14:16:58 »
So if students miss a whole bunch of school and everyone still graduates, would people be amiss in believing that there is significant fluff in the curriculum and that maybe teachers don't deserve more?    :whistle:

Moot comment. “Everyone” won’t still graduate. End of story. 
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Re: New Ontario Government 2018
« Reply #272 on: February 22, 2020, 14:37:37 »
Moot comment. “Everyone” won’t still graduate. End of story.
Yes, I understand that some people fail regardless (Most people in the military have a vague understanding of the instructional business).  I also understand that family connections to the issue may cause a dismissive, but unwarranted, response.

The potential perception remains nonetheless.

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Re: New Ontario Government 2018
« Reply #273 on: February 22, 2020, 14:45:08 »
>The majority of society believe teachers have it made in this province. That is hardly the case.

In what way(s) do they not have it made?  Pay?  Pension?  Other benefits?  Time off?  Provisions for sickness?  Difficulty acquiring credential?
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Re: New Ontario Government 2018
« Reply #274 on: February 22, 2020, 15:01:55 »
Yes, I understand that some people fail regardless (Most people in the military have a vague understanding of the instructional business).  I also understand that family connections to the issue may cause a dismissive, but unwarranted, response.

The potential perception remains nonetheless.

With all due respect, JM, while you retain a breadth of knowledge on several subjects, and I’ve always appreciated when you’ve chosen to share your knowledge in a straightforward and clear manner without including condescension and thinly-veiled trolling, I don’t think it appropriate for you to be casting judgement on what is and isn’t a “warranted” response. The sheer fact that you did another one of your unnecessary and blatant drive-bys is what, in part, lead to my post in the first place.

Furthermore, asserting that I’ve based my opinions on familial connections to the profession is grossly inaccurate. My sole point in bringing that fact forward was to show that I’m glad I’m fortunate to have access to a view-point from people directly tied to the issues at hand, rather than solely depending on (incomplete and/or unbalanced) aspects seemingly dominating the media at the moment. I don’t necessarily agree with all tactics being used by the side of the teachers, but I am on their side. I wouldn’t want their job.



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