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Did the RCN switch to metal skill badges for all of their skill badges on DEU tunics? I thought I saw a couple of pictures with sailors with metal diver badges on their tunics. If so, why the change? Are the other services going to follow suit?

Yes (mostly), last summer:

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3. DEU:

A. EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY SPECIALIST SKILL BADGES: CLOTH SPECIALIST
SKILL BADGES IAW A-DH-265-000/AG-001 (CANADIAN FORCES DRESS
INSTRUCTION) CH.3 FIGURES 3-3-3 AND FIGURE 3-3-4 ARE TO BE REMOVED
AND REPLACED WITH METAL BADGES

B. MARKSMANSHIP BADGE - NAVY MARKSMEN OF THE RANK OF PO2 AND BELOW
WHO HAVE QUALIFIED AS A FIRST CLASS SHOT OR MARKSMAN, BASED ON ANNUAL
CLASSIFICATION RESULTS FOR THE SERVICE RIFLE IAW CHAPTER 4 OF B-GL-
382-001/FP-001 (CANADIAN FORCES OPERATIONAL SHOOTING PROGRAMME) ARE
AUTHORIZED TO WEAR THE APPROPRIATE MARKSMANSHIP BADGE, EMBROIDERED IN
CF GOLD ON RIFLE GREEN MELTON CLOTH, ON SERVICE DRESS JACKETS. IF THE
MEMBER DOES NOT RE-QUALIFY AS A FIRST CLASS SHOT, OR MARKSMAN WITHIN
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So, basically going back to what it used to be be in the 70's and 80's: Metal for CF/DEU, cloth for WD/NCD.

As with everything "fashion" what was old is new again and no new wheel gets invented, we just go back in circles to what was in - fell out of fashion - and now is in again.

"Managed change" anyone?

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What experience does JTF2 have in this regard either?  They are able to carry out even more complex boarding operations.  Bring a specialist along for the ride or point a gun in someone's face and tell them to do it.  What your highlighting is not a critical requirement...

It’s probably reasonable to believe that some of these folks would have the necessary skills to control the vessel once the tactical situation is controlled.

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Re: New skill badges recognize unique naval operations qualifications
« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2019, 19:26:18 »
http://www.navy-marine.forces.gc.ca/en/news-operations/news-view.page?doc=new-skill-badges-recognize-unique-naval-operations-qualifications%2Fjvmqlycc&fbclid=IwAR34ca4EH_cM7psc3z7qijG7tQO2iOHo4YmPjRhABJPdsKG94BOYziuRZ0Y%27
And in case you missed it in May, here's a slightly different angle from the RCN info-machine in August.
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The latest candidates of the Naval Boarding Party (NBP) Basic Course at Naval Fleet School (Pacific) in Esquimalt, B.C., graduated in a ceremony held August 15. They were the first in the Royal Canadian Navy (RCN) to receive the new Specialist Skill Badges for the NBP qualification.

The new NBP badge is one of three new skill badges introduced by the RCN in May to recognize the specialized skill sets of the NBP, the Naval Security Team (NST) and the Naval Tactical Operations Group (NTOG).

All three badges consist of a shield, a traditional symbol of protection, and the NBP badge also includes a stylized naval compass and fouled anchor.

While addressing the 11 graduates, Lieutenant-Commander (LCdr) Danny O’Regan, Acting Commandant of Naval Fleet School (Pacific), congratulated them for their achievement following six weeks of physically and mentally demanding training.

“Boardings are an important part of what the RCN does operationally during deployments around the globe, and these new specialist skill badges are visible recognition that you have attained this significant qualification,” said LCdr O’Regan. “I hope you will wear them with pride as you take your new skills to your shipboard teams.” ...
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Attached photo caption:  "From left: The Naval Boarding Party Basic Qualification badge and the Naval Tactical Operations Group Qualification badge."
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Re: New skill badges recognize unique naval operations qualifications
« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2019, 20:26:00 »
And in case you missed it in May, here's a slightly different angle from the RCN info-machine in August.More @ link

Attached photo caption:  "From left: The Naval Boarding Party Basic Qualification badge and the Naval Tactical Operations Group Qualification badge."

They're...not awful.

Looks at RCAF Command Badge
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Re: New skill badges recognize unique naval operations qualifications
« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2019, 07:53:02 »
They're...not awful.

Looks at RCAF Command Badge

You mean the seagull with an expanding blue fart emanating from its anus?

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Re: New skill badges recognize unique naval operations qualifications
« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2019, 07:55:19 »
You mean the seagull with an expanding blue fart emanating from its anus?
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Re: New skill badges recognize unique naval operations qualifications
« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2019, 08:21:08 »
You mean the seagull with an expanding blue fart emanating from its anus?

 :-X

Ok, maybe the new RCAF Command Badge is a little bit nicer than that. 
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Re: New skill badges recognize unique naval operations qualifications
« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2019, 08:37:02 »
I'd prefer if they were broken down by "groups"...because the old MAG badge was better than the current one with the wings sticking out way too far...then all we have to do is teach people how it is supposed to be worn.   :nod:

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Re: New skill badges recognize unique naval operations qualifications
« Reply #34 on: August 30, 2019, 08:48:11 »
I'd prefer if they were broken down by "groups"...because the old MAG badge was better than the current one with the wings sticking out way too far...then all we have to do is teach people how it is supposed to be worn.   :nod:

https://www.facebook.com/RCAF.ARC/photos/a.10150142814416237/10156261897441237/?type=3&theater

Or we put the Maritime Air Group guys and gals (and non binary) in RCN uniforms and then nobody needs any stinkin badges!  ;D

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Re: New skill badges recognize unique naval operations qualifications
« Reply #35 on: August 30, 2019, 08:53:26 »
Or we put the Maritime Air Group guys and gals (and non binary) in RCN uniforms and then nobody needs any stinkin badges!  ;D

Uhhh, I like my wedge too much to give it up. 

And...I'd like to see the Air Transport Command badge come back;  that's the one I think everyone would 'point and talk' about... ;D
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Re: New skill badges recognize unique naval operations qualifications
« Reply #36 on: August 30, 2019, 10:38:20 »
You mean the seagull with an expanding blue fart emanating from its anus?


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Re: New skill badges recognize unique naval operations qualifications
« Reply #37 on: August 30, 2019, 11:02:31 »
Uhhh, I like my wedge too much to give it up. 

Pfft...I'm sure there would be some "considerations"

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Re: New skill badges recognize unique naval operations qualifications
« Reply #38 on: August 30, 2019, 11:25:44 »
Pfft...I'm sure there would be some "considerations"



Maybe the RCN would/could get use some new flight suits to go with them? 
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Re: New skill badges recognize unique naval operations qualifications
« Reply #39 on: August 30, 2019, 11:27:22 »
Or we put the Maritime Air Group guys and gals (and non binary) in RCN uniforms and then nobody needs any stinkin badges!  ;D

That's actually a topic in the Air Force Research List 2019-2020 (along with Tac Hel to the Army).  I wonder if anyone will write about it. 
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Re: New skill badges recognize unique naval operations qualifications
« Reply #40 on: August 30, 2019, 11:45:44 »
That's actually a topic in the Air Force Research List 2019-2020 (along with Tac Hel to the Army).  I wonder if anyone will write about it.

Do you have a link?

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Re: New skill badges recognize unique naval operations qualifications
« Reply #41 on: August 30, 2019, 12:03:55 »
That's actually a topic in the Air Force Research List 2019-2020 (along with Tac Hel to the Army).  I wonder if anyone will write about it.

You mean Fighter is trying to eliminate its competition?  ;)

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Re: New skill badges recognize unique naval operations qualifications
« Reply #42 on: August 30, 2019, 12:25:19 »
Do you have a link?

It was a document I found but I can't find the link on the stupid DND search function.  However, the relevant part is this:

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Functional support to the other CAF environments. Is the current approach of consolidating aircraft resources within the RCAF still effective? Explore the possibilities of organic aviation assets controlled, managed and optimized by one or all of the Royal Canadian Navy (RCN), Canadian special operations forces and Canadian Army (CA), with engineering and higher-headquarters support provided by the RCAF.
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Re: New skill badges recognize unique naval operations qualifications
« Reply #43 on: August 30, 2019, 13:12:28 »
I'd prefer if they were broken down by "groups"...because the old MAG badge was better than the current one with the wings sticking out way too far...then all we have to do is teach people how it is supposed to be worn.   :nod:

https://www.facebook.com/RCAF.ARC/photos/a.10150142814416237/10156261897441237/?type=3&theater

Just a semantics point, that's not a "MAG" badge, but the "Air Command" badge.  I wore it, back in the days of everyone in green, when posted to Edmonton.
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Re: New skill badges recognize unique naval operations qualifications
« Reply #44 on: August 30, 2019, 13:28:13 »
Well, all these years I've thought that was what it was...thanks for the correction!  It's the only one I remember Dad wearing, always thought it was MAG.

Seems this is what I was actually talking about? (pic attached)  I'd rather that be made into a Command Badge to replace the one I have now.

http://www.shearwateraviationmuseum.ns.ca/images/crests/general/MaritimeAirCommand.jpg
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