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Big Brother Canada
« on: March 10, 2020, 11:21:55 »
To be honest, I'm surprised this potential circus hasn't come up on here before:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7voqOLLKZ-o
Member of B Coy, Rocky Mountain Rangers, completed special forces selection and now appearing on Big Brother Canada. According to several sources, this wasn't cleared through his CoC or unit PAFO, and they weren't aware of his participation.

I guess his CoC is waiting to see how it plays out, but at least one person has mentioned that his RSM will gladly be waiting at the door when his time in the Big Brother house is done.

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« Last Edit: March 10, 2020, 12:00:51 by milnews.ca »
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Re: Big Brother Canda
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2020, 11:37:32 »
When I saw the title of this topic, my first thought (other than the misspelling of Canada) was that it might be a story about a military connection  to the youth mentoring organization (you can guess that I have never watched this TV program) and my hope was that it wasn't about allegations of inappropriate conduct on the part of an adult service member.  While my fears have been allayed, this is almost as embarrassing.
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Re: Big Brother Canda
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2020, 11:44:58 »
Of course if he is a reserve (I can't watch the YouTube clip at the moment) you have the issue if he is subject to the code of service discipline. Unless he is undergoing drill or training or in uniform (and some other similiar conditions) he is not subject to the code of service discipline. Now as long as he did not discredit the CAF I think it would be hard to punish him administrativly.

Would I have told my chain of command if it was me, yes but do I have to if I am a reserve. I don't know.
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Re: Big Brother Canada Season 8
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2020, 11:47:23 »
Oops on the spelling...I haven't received my caffeine yet.

It's heading towards embarrassing, especially since he's already hyped himself up and slightly misrepresented himself. But I know what road it's likely to go down when he couldn't hold it in any longer and just had to tell one of his fellow house mates (female of course) that he "has Army secrets."
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Re: Big Brother Canada Season 8
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2020, 11:47:57 »
I think the concern is he could say something to discredit the CAF.
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Re: Big Brother Canada
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2020, 12:46:57 »
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Re: Big Brother Canada
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2020, 12:47:30 »
Some of the memes I've seen about this guy are epic...
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Re: Big Brother Canada
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2020, 13:02:37 »
I wonder if he signed papers with the show and then they told him after what they wanted him to do... I would have checked with my CoC before doing anything like going on this show. Maybe he thought it was better to ask for forgiveness than for permission.
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Re: Big Brother Canada
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2020, 13:34:57 »
Rumor is (with some screen shots I guess) a PAO emailed an Instagram account that was pumping out memes about this guy and his home reserve unit. Apparently it was a fairly threatening email. The recipient isn't a serving member anymore so probably didn't have the desired result.
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Re: Big Brother Canada
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2020, 13:51:54 »
Rumor is (with some screen shots I guess) a PAO emailed an Instagram account that was pumping out memes about this guy and his home reserve unit. Apparently it was a fairly threatening email. The recipient isn't a serving member anymore so probably didn't have the desired result.

Yeah I shouldn't share those anyways. Not a fan of online bullying... kind of got carried away there.
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Re: Big Brother Canada
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2020, 13:53:19 »
This guy can puff up his chest and big himself up all he wants. What boils my piss is when he represents himself as 100% hard charging super infantryman, inferring a reg force career soldier, and not 10% wannabe door kicker with a major in barista at Second Cup U or something like that. No law against being an idjit.
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Re: Big Brother Canada
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2020, 14:04:41 »
Yeah I shouldn't share those anyways. Not a fan of online bullying... kind of got carried away there.

Good on you for not sharing the dudes name or email address.
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Re: Big Brother Canada
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2020, 14:48:29 »
This guy can puff up his chest and big himself up all he wants. What boils my piss is when he represents himself as 100% hard charging super infantryman, inferring a reg force career soldier, and not 10% wannabe door kicker with a major in barista at Second Cup U or something like that. No law against being an idjit.

His exact words to his female house mate (when they were alone, of course):
Do you want to hear army stories?
Can I trust you?
I served for six and a half years in the military.

To your point, he doesn't clarify reg/reserve service. Interesting use of the past tense as well, despite being a current serving member. He's making it out to be a big deal and something that is a secret - earlier he told everyone he works for a big Canadian yoga clothing company.
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Re: Big Brother Canada
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2020, 15:10:08 »
His exact words to his female house mate (when they were alone, of course):
Do you want to hear army stories?
Can I trust you?
I served for six and a half years in the military.

To your point, he doesn't clarify reg/reserve service. Interesting use of the past tense as well, despite being a current serving member. He's making it out to be a big deal and something that is a secret - earlier he told everyone he works for a big Canadian yoga clothing company.

Oh God, lol. The various Facebook CAF meme pages ate him alive a couple weeks back when his promo video came out. Now we’re gonna get new material every week for potentially a month or two.

As a Cl A reservist, he should have nothing to fear in terms of discipline, and even administrative measures probably won’t be called for if he doesn’t talk outside his arcs of his own limited experiences. The social consequences though? Dude did it to himself. You never go full toon.
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Re: Big Brother Canada
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2020, 15:15:38 »
As you say, as long as he stays in his arcs he might be okay. But isn't the golden rule to always clear anything that puts you in public eye with the PAFO so that you know where your arcs are? Maybe that's just a unit SOP.

But at the very least, I can see him getting his wrist slapped over not giving a heads up to his CoC. To the majority of Canada, he will be the public face of the average troop in the CAF.
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Re: Big Brother Canada
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2020, 15:23:08 »
As you say, as long as he stays in his arcs he might be okay. But isn't the golden rule to always clear anything that puts you in public eye with the PAFO so that you know where your arcs are? Maybe that's just something a unit SOP.

But at the very least, I can see him getting his wrist slapped over not giving a heads up to his CoC. To the majority of Canada, he will be the public face of the average troop in the CAF.

Starts his adventure determined not to tell anyone he's in the army. Meets a girl and immediately can't STFU about how he's in the army. To be fair, that's pretty average.
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Re: Big Brother Canada
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2020, 15:31:53 »
Starts his adventure determined not to tell anyone he's in the army. Meets a girl and immediately can't STFU about how he's in the army. To be fair, that's pretty average.

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Re: Big Brother Canada
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2020, 16:05:05 »
Guys like this is why Reg Force guys look down on and scorn PRes troops. This guy deserves every meme.

I can't find any doing a google search though ...

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Re: Big Brother Canada Season 8
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2020, 16:17:20 »
I think the concern is he could say something to discredit the CAF.

You mean tell the truth? God forbid the public gets anything other than sunshine and rainbows when it comes to the CAF.
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Re: Big Brother Canada Season 8
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2020, 16:22:24 »
You mean tell the truth? God forbid the public gets anything other than sunshine and rainbows when it comes to the CAF.

I think the danger is not that people realize that there are some people like him in the CAF, but that they then think we're all like this tool.

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Re: Big Brother Canada Season 8
« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2020, 16:29:59 »
I think the danger is not that people realize that there are some people like him in the CAF, but that they then think we're all like this tool.

Yes, I certainly don't want people to think we are all that fit.
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Re: Big Brother Canada Season 8
« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2020, 16:31:23 »
You mean tell the truth? God forbid the public gets anything other than sunshine and rainbows when it comes to the CAF.
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Re: Big Brother Canada Season 8
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2020, 16:49:57 »
Yes, I certainly don't want people to think we are all that fit.

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Re: Big Brother Canada Season 8
« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2020, 17:55:31 »
Yes, I certainly don't want people to think we are all that fit.

MJP, you clearly spent some NDHQ TD time in the Rideau Centre food court and saw some pretty Stirling examples of uniforms under extreme pressure! ;)

Seriously though, the kid’s being a kid and anyone who’s watching Big Brother (of any country) probably has no opinion to form about the CAF other than the novelty of finding out that Canada actually had a military. For all the ire being thrown out by many, I’d love to see how the low on the totem pole new Pte(T)s or Cpls puffed up their chests at Sassy’s, or the Roz...I’m sure there were more than a few cringe-worthy moments that happened there...just that there was no life-CCTV at the time.

Frankly, given how some shoddy PAO work has come recently (hello Cdn Army Instagram, for ex.), the kid is a lot further away from crossing the line out of his lane than many supposed professionals.

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Re: Big Brother Canada
« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2020, 18:00:42 »
Fair point G2G about the PAO, especially the 39 CBG Instagram...a year or two ago it was actually hacked by someone in Russia.
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