12 Dec 05 Afghan landmine explosion injures 3 Cdn. soldiers
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About the Lav , i understand they take out tanks and such , but i don't think they ( in afghanistan) will hit a hard target like a Lav. but time will time i guess! they still havn't seen our drills on the 25mm yet and its firpower and distance. Like i guess all of us going there will find out .
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silentbutdeadly said:
Sgt pull your head outof the sand. We had Coyote's here in 2002, and LAV's and 'yotes since 2003... People watch. When you get over to Afghan you'll see that the LAV is not the be all end all and for the most part is just a larger tgt.
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On Athena 0, there were many times we saw "persons of interest" videotaping us in the LAV as we drove through Kabul. Of course we were directed to detain anyone like that but Im not about to dismount in crowds of thousands to run down a fellow with a camera. I am almost positive the talaban have thought long and hard about how to hit a lav but fortunately for us they havn't had the opportunity yet.
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silentbutdeadly said:
At the risk of being flamed me being a newb and all, if 'they' are taking out main battle tanks in Iraq I hazard to guess 'they' would have little reservation about carrying out an attack on a LAV in Afghan regardless of what u have mounted on the lid. Remember, 'they' have no fear of, or reservations about death like most of our troops and allies. Keep in mind 'they' are more than willing to strap a bomb on and sacrifice themselves, their wives, husbands, and no doubt their children to further their twisted ideology. I have no doubt in my mind, any weaknesses discovered by them will be exploited to the fullest of their ability.
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RoKo -- precisely...
They can always make a bigger bang too -- an roadside IED may not have the OOMPH to bang up a yote or LAV other than the exposed crew -- but VBIED's can.
Look at some of the Russian ambush vids' and you will see them smoking T-72's, BTR's and BMP's -- the LAV and Coyote are not dismilar from those. Some of the BTR's where blown into the air like 20-30 feet.
Down Jalalabad road outtowards Poli-Sharki (ANA Corps and Range Area) there was a bit of a boom early this month -- 30 min later a much larger VBIED one 300m from the intial as they tried to hit a QRF.
These people are sneeky, evil and they learn from their and our mistakes.
They can always make a bigger bang too -- an roadside IED may not have the OOMPH to bang up a yote or LAV other than the exposed crew -- but VBIED's can.
Look at some of the Russian ambush vids' and you will see them smoking T-72's, BTR's and BMP's -- the LAV and Coyote are not dismilar from those. Some of the BTR's where blown into the air like 20-30 feet.
Down Jalalabad road outtowards Poli-Sharki (ANA Corps and Range Area) there was a bit of a boom early this month -- 30 min later a much larger VBIED one 300m from the intial as they tried to hit a QRF.
These people are sneeky, evil and they learn from their and our mistakes.
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the insurgents in Iraq are far different then the ones in Afghanistan , so comparing them is a little hard to do and the tactics they use! the ones in Afghanistan are not in the business of using or killin women and children.
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well when we get there Kev give us some dirty! dude! problem better then our own intel!
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As always once you get on ground you will quickly discern what was crap in DLOC / MS trg.
The guys down the road have the best info in Khandar since they are out kicking peoples ass all around it -- We have a few PSD teams down that way too, though they are down the road spawed guys too...
Best thing -- dont drive like DynCorp...
Were running low pro - but the specific targets we get int on are ISAF/OEF troops and the US Embassy (tgt #2 in the free world apparently - so I'm making my bucks...).
In The North West and Southern (Khandahar area) it is still the wild west -- as others have alluded to the Opium Erradication Programs that the US and UK are sponsoring are cutting into the Warlords income and prestige -- so they are ANGRY.
Some good jobs in country if you guys want to go private after TF1-06...
As I told Jay...
I'll PM you
Cheers --
The guys down the road have the best info in Khandar since they are out kicking peoples ass all around it -- We have a few PSD teams down that way too, though they are down the road spawed guys too...
Best thing -- dont drive like DynCorp...
Were running low pro - but the specific targets we get int on are ISAF/OEF troops and the US Embassy (tgt #2 in the free world apparently - so I'm making my bucks...).
In The North West and Southern (Khandahar area) it is still the wild west -- as others have alluded to the Opium Erradication Programs that the US and UK are sponsoring are cutting into the Warlords income and prestige -- so they are ANGRY.
Some good jobs in country if you guys want to go private after TF1-06...
As I told Jay...
I'll PM you
Cheers --
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Dude your only going to contribute to the personal shortage in the CF with talk like that.
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http://thechronicleherald.ca/Canada/471722.html
Military releases names of soldiers injured by bomb in Afghanistan
A soldier from Quebec and another from British Columbia have been identified as the Canadians injured in a roadside bomb attack in Afghanistan earlier this week, a military spokesman said Thursday.
Capt. Manuel Panchana-Moya, 26, is from Montreal and Pte. Ryan Crawford, 21, comes from Kelowna.
Both are based in Edmonton with the 3rd Battalion of the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry.
The bomb went off as the Canadians patrolled in a lightly armoured vehicle about 90 kilometres west of Kandahar on Monday.
Panchana-Moya's leg was broken in the attack, while Crawford suffered a broken ankle and foot. Another soldier and a journalist received minor injuries.
The injured soldiers were flown back to Edmonton on Tuesday after being attended to in a military hospital in Ramstein, Germany.
Military officials had called media outlets Thursday to arrange interviews with the injured men, who are still in hospital, but later cancelled them because doctors decided the soldiers weren't yet up to the strain.
"They're in surgery for their injuries and will be recovering over the weekend," said Brian Hillier, a former captain who is now a civilian with Edmonton-based Land Force Western Area.
Hillier said the interviews may take place next week if the men are feeling better.
Canadian military officials said the bomb blast is being investigated by a group that includes American specialists to determine what sort of explosive was used and how it detonated.
Canada has about 250 soldiers running a provincial reconstruction team based in Kandahar.
Military releases names of soldiers injured by bomb in Afghanistan
A soldier from Quebec and another from British Columbia have been identified as the Canadians injured in a roadside bomb attack in Afghanistan earlier this week, a military spokesman said Thursday.
Capt. Manuel Panchana-Moya, 26, is from Montreal and Pte. Ryan Crawford, 21, comes from Kelowna.
Both are based in Edmonton with the 3rd Battalion of the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry.
The bomb went off as the Canadians patrolled in a lightly armoured vehicle about 90 kilometres west of Kandahar on Monday.
Panchana-Moya's leg was broken in the attack, while Crawford suffered a broken ankle and foot. Another soldier and a journalist received minor injuries.
The injured soldiers were flown back to Edmonton on Tuesday after being attended to in a military hospital in Ramstein, Germany.
Military officials had called media outlets Thursday to arrange interviews with the injured men, who are still in hospital, but later cancelled them because doctors decided the soldiers weren't yet up to the strain.
"They're in surgery for their injuries and will be recovering over the weekend," said Brian Hillier, a former captain who is now a civilian with Edmonton-based Land Force Western Area.
Hillier said the interviews may take place next week if the men are feeling better.
Canadian military officials said the bomb blast is being investigated by a group that includes American specialists to determine what sort of explosive was used and how it detonated.
Canada has about 250 soldiers running a provincial reconstruction team based in Kandahar.
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i was under the assumption that the soldiers asked for there names not to be printed? i guess that didn't work out to well!
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silentbutdeadly said:
SBD,
Those soldiers are members of my unit. They were asked, and consented to have their names released to the media.
Sarcasm and cynisim are all well and good - where WARRANTED. But when someone indulges in either "attitude" lacking the experiential background or facts to be credible? Well, then he (or she) simply tends to come off as an arse-clown.
Welcome to the 3-ring circus. Give your big red nose a squeeze. "Beep, Beep!"
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My advice for the future would be to know exactly what the heck you are blabbing about before inserting your foot firmly in your gob.
FWIW
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silentbutdeadly said:
You assumption is backward. In issues of medical confidentiality, privacy is guaranteed. They must consent to have their names and any other information released. In fact, I believe consent must even be given for media to film them, as was done on thier arrival, coming off the plane into Edmonton.
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