All Things AB Separatism (split fm Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???)

[MilEME09]

UCP still comfortably ahead despite the separatism leftist outcry.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/naheed-nenshi-alberta-ndp-janet-brown-poll-analysis-1.7546390

break it down urban vs rural, NDP is way ahead in the major cities of Calgary(most of it), edmonton and lethbridge, its the rural ridings keeping the UCP in power.

 

[The Bread Guy]

UCP becoming a separatist party? sure seems like it, and this is why(among other reasons) my vote provincially has gone to the AB party.

When the Premier herself admits she has to at least lean that way to keep the party united, not surprising.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1928780536320782670

Thanks for the more granular take on who thinks what!

 

[MilEME09]

When the Premier herself admits she has to at least lean that way to keep the party united, not surprising.

Thanks for the more granular take on who thinks what!

Wonder what the split is for undecided voters though

 

[The Bread Guy]

Wonder what the split is for undecided voters though

That looks like the grey bit on the bars - pretty small right now.

 

[klambie]

break it down urban vs rural, NDP is way ahead in the major cities of Calgary(most of it), edmonton and lethbridge, its the rural ridings keeping the UCP in power.

The linked article has NDP -13 in Calgary and marginally ahead in Edmonton.

 

[CBH99]

This is just my own take on things, and isn't necessarily supported by anything other than being an Albertan thru & thru...

Alberta doesn't want to seperate.

Even those calling for Alberta to seperate, don't actually want Alberta to seperate... (there will always be an extreme view, however, regardless of what crowd is being looked at)


Albertans don't want to seperate from Canada.

Albertans are leery of, and growing more & more distrustful of, what Canada has slowly been turning into for the last decade or so.

(And we are distrustful still because it seems to be continuing down the same path it was under Trudeau...)

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I'm a proud Canadian, and in my ideal world Canada would be/could be a strong middle power with a strong economy, strong ideals, strong values, and a country that wields it's power to do good in the world where it can.

I wore the Canadian flag with pride when I deployed in 2006 and 2010 to Afghanistan, and have always tried to look at issues through a national lense & keep the bigger picture in mind.


That being said, as much as I don't want fo see Alberta seperate from Canada, I would absolutely throw my support behind Alberta if that happens.

My values these days seem to line up far more with my fellow Albertans & my fellow Canadians than it does the federal government elected to govern us or represent us.

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We live in interesting times, indeed...

IF Alberta leaves Canada, I want to say it's because Ottawa forced us to leave. Not because anybody here really wanted to.

But being Canadian doesn't mean what it used to mean. And that was done very intentionally by our very own federal government.

And I think the folks here in Alberta are simply being loyal to what that identity was, and meant - moreso than any interest in creating a new 'Albertan' identity.




(Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. That's just the gist I get when I hear people chat about the issue here, whether it be family or neighbours or co-workers)

My 0.02

 

[suffolkowner]

PMMC has said he is looking for projects to push through. Maybe one or two will be an oil or gas pipeline?

 

[MilEME09]

The linked article has NDP -13 in Calgary and marginally ahead in Edmonton.

Yes, and if you look at the last election or a riding breakdown. NDP have strong support in the core of calgary, but the far NE and NW still are strong UCP. If the NDP break that suburban support for the UCP, they will form gov.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Good long form interview with DS

 

[The Bread Guy]

Good long form interview with DS

Haven’t had a chance to listen - how was it?

 

[Quirky]

Yes, and if you look at the last election or a riding breakdown. NDP have strong support in the core of calgary, but the far NE and NW still are strong UCP. If the NDP break that suburban support for the UCP, they will form gov.

NDP….wins elections…with more support!? Shocking news.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Haven’t had a chance to listen - how was it?

David does a good job. He's good at asking the tough questions without coming off biased or being the typical journalist dick head.

He's one of the guys who I don't share political space with but I listen to what he has to say. If I was a political leader I would want him as an advisor.

It was interesting to hear about her formative years.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

This is just my own take on things, and isn't necessarily supported by anything other than being an Albertan thru & thru...

Alberta doesn't want to seperate.

Even those calling for Alberta to seperate, don't actually want Alberta to seperate... (there will always be an extreme view, however, regardless of what crowd is being looked at)


Albertans don't want to seperate from Canada.

Albertans are leery of, and growing more & more distrustful of, what Canada has slowly been turning into for the last decade or so.

(And we are distrustful still because it seems to be continuing down the same path it was under Trudeau...)

---

I'm a proud Canadian, and in my ideal world Canada would be/could be a strong middle power with a strong economy, strong ideals, strong values, and a country that wields it's power to do good in the world where it can.

I wore the Canadian flag with pride when I deployed in 2006 and 2010 to Afghanistan, and have always tried to look at issues through a national lense & keep the bigger picture in mind.


That being said, as much as I don't want fo see Alberta seperate from Canada, I would absolutely throw my support behind Alberta if that happens.

My values these days seem to line up far more with my fellow Albertans & my fellow Canadians than it does the federal government elected to govern us or represent us.

---

We live in interesting times, indeed...

IF Alberta leaves Canada, I want to say it's because Ottawa forced us to leave. Not because anybody here really wanted to.

But being Canadian doesn't mean what it used to mean. And that was done very intentionally by our very own federal government.

And I think the folks here in Alberta are simply being loyal to what that identity was, and meant - moreso than any interest in creating a new 'Albertan' identity.




(Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. That's just the gist I get when I hear people chat about the issue here, whether it be family or neighbours or co-workers)

My 0.02

I agree it's Ottawa's fault. Ottawa has been pushing it's agenda on all of Canada since trudeau entered politics. Every province has been fucked by them. The repercussions this liberal government has inflicted on the country is unforgivable. Repercussions that will haunt us for generations. Canadian livelihoods have been destroyed, homes and jobs lost, families disintegrated. Out of control immigration, illegal aliens, rampant crime, the list goes on and is long. Alberta and Smith have just had enough, other provinces are seeing the Great Oz behind the curtain. Hopefully, they can find their houevos to rebel, like Alberta, and take back what is theirs.

 

[daftandbarmy]

I agree it's Ottawa's fault. Ottawa has been pushing it's agenda on all of Canada since trudeau entered politics. Every province has been fucked by them. The repercussions this liberal government has inflicted on the country is unforgivable. Repercussions that will haunt us for generations. Canadian livelihoods have been destroyed, homes and jobs lost, families disintegrated. Out of control immigration, illegal aliens, rampant crime, the list goes on and is long. Alberta and Smith have just had enough, other provinces are seeing the Great Oz behind the curtain. Hopefully, they can find their houevos to rebel, like Alberta, and take back what is theirs.

You left out the part about where Trudeau really helped out the local drug dealers

'Diverted safe supply is being resold into our community': London police confirm drug diversion a growing concern​

'Diverted safe supply is being resold into our community': London police confirm drug diversion a growing concern

For the first time, London police are speaking out about the diversion of safe supply drugs happening in the city.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[Jarnhamar]

Smith and Carney, what a team.

Carney had ‘constructive meeting’ with Alberta Premier Danielle Smith

 

[Quirky]

Smith and Carney, what a team.

Carney had ‘constructive meeting’ with Alberta Premier Danielle Smith

After the last 10 years I'm glad Canada finally has adults in the room. Trudeau needs to be stricken from all records.

 

[Jarnhamar]

After the last 10 years I'm glad Canada finally has adults in the room. Trudeau needs to be stricken from all records.

The last PM didn't like strong independent women. Hopefully Carney isn't threatened by strong women.