CAN-USA 2025 Tariff Strife (split from various pol threads)

[Cloud Cover]

Paul Martin Jr never managed the books of a small business and he was head and shoulders among the top 2 or 3 Min of Finance we’ve had.

He had much better help than Carney will ever have because the purpose of Chrétiens first mandate was to cut, cut and cut and not performatively act restrained while racking up deficits. And to be very clear, any government in power at that time would have had to do the same hence the old saying “Stay Alive til 95”. There is (or was) a fair bit of academic and professional opinion that the budgets of 1994 and 1995 were the most profound public policy events in Canadian history since Confederation because there was wide acceptance that there is no bottomless pit if spending and taxation. That notion died completely in Parliament in November 2015 and we have been sunk ever since.

 

[MilEME09]

His monetary policies and his net zero zealotry has trashed the economy of Britain.

Brexit had a bigger influence on that than anything else, and many economists have stayed Britain would of been worse off without him.

And trudeau was a part time drama teachers assistant and freeland was a journalist who blew $10 million dollars of Reuters money before she was asked to resign. PP is probably the most astute politician in Parliament and most of the country is ready to give him possibly, the largest mandate in modern history

Never said either were the best picks either, but if we want someone who understands economics, the current cpc isn't it. Out of anyone with any economic sense we have a couple mortgage brokers, a couple with masters in economics, but not much else. No one with the experience running a major company that would help. Imfact the majority are career politicians with no experience in anything outside politics which gives no favour's to the CPC.

In 2014 the CPC joke was Trudeau's "just not ready" but looking over the entire shadow cabinet I would say that about the CPC right now. The have no experience to draw upon to have strong cabinet ministers who have real world experience to draw upon that some of you are blasting carney for as a counter point to me.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Brexit had a bigger influence on that than anything else, and many economists have stayed Britain would of been worse off without him.

Never said either were the best picks either, but if we want someone who understands economics, the current cpc isn't it. Out of anyone with any economic sense we have a couple mortgage brokers, a couple with masters in economics, but not much else. No one with the experience running a major company that would help. Imfact the majority are career politicians with no experience in anything outside politics which gives no favour's to the CPC.

In 2014 the CPC joke was Trudeau's "just not ready" but looking over the entire shadow cabinet I would say that about the CPC right now. The have no experience to draw upon to have strong cabinet ministers who have real world experience to draw upon that some of you are blasting carney for as a counter point to me.

You're seriously advocating to keep the liberals in charge of government?

 

[Good2Golf]

Paul Martin Jr never managed the books of a small business and he was head and shoulders among the top 2 or 3 Min of Finance we’ve had.

Perhaps the time he spent running Canada Steamship Lines helped?

 

[RangerRay]

I’ve heard from a few people who were leaning Tory who are now really interested in Carney because he’s a “money guy”.

These people aren’t super partisan so don’t pay attention to this stuff like we do. They don’t pay attention to the fact that all of Trudeau’s people back him or all the “Net Zero” stuff. If you asked them what Net Zero was, they’d say it was fishing without a net. They fall in the majority of voters.

 

[McG]

JD Vance coming in Hot … and it’s ugly for the policy missteps of Canadian Team Red:

None of those items are tied to the stated casus bello of "trade deficit is too high."

This shows that their messaging is all over the place and is not at all about correcting policy problems.

This is petty revenge and is amounting to the U.S. cutting off it's nose to spite it's face.

The Trump admin has adopted Russia’s firehose of excrement in the information domain. They spray a whole lot of conflicting messages and let the useful idiots propagate personal favourites.

Team Trump does not care about “team red” nor “team blue” in Canada. He has even made disparaging comments of both party leaders, so if you think colour of government is a factor, you are going to be disappointed with the results of any change.

The US has no legitimate grievance to avenge in Canada. So the tariffs are not revenge. They are bullying, and an effort to exert/demonstrate US dominance over smaller countries. This is also a testing the waters phase to see how much they can get away with. Will the international community rally, or can he pick apart targets piecemeal?