I’m not better than you or anyone else here. I’m simply asking whether this is about that particular culture war bullshit or some other culture war bullshit. I wasn’t accusing you of trans panic, or calling army.ca one of the “dumber corners of the internet”, I’m just speaking more broadly to what I’ve seen bandied about on this subject today. There’s been a flurry of activity from various high profile figures claiming falsely that she’s trans. I’m not gonna coddle that and pretend that shit take is one that should be treated courteously.
All reporting that I’ve seen suggests we are discussing a woman who was born with a vagina and who identifies as a woman. Why is she being called transgender, and why is she being discussed in this thread?
My guess? The person who tangentially introduced the topic has their twitter feed inundated with as much "biological male transwoman boxer beats up biological female boxer" propaganda bullshit as mine is (literally every other post on my twitter feed has been nothing but posts spreading the narrative that she is a man). The poster, it seems, agreed with the angry sentiment that a transwoman was allowed to compete against a biological woman and that that should not be allowed, and posted a supportive, albeit passive aggressive, meme to that effect.
That issue has brought it to light, but the issue has been simmering for a long time. Hell I remember people questioning some of the Soviet "women athletes" back in the day.
East German women too
On that note, I have no idea why chess (yes, it’s not an Olympic sport) is segregated by gender.
In 1976 in Montreal the only female athlete not gender tested was......
Sports like Chess and even shooting (not including biathlon) do not need to be segregated.
No, there's nothing wrong at all. Imane is not some herculean beast; she's lost plenty of matches against other women.
What do you mean that they can't be measured? Do you mean that they are bimodal? It's more than potential it's more like realized potential. What separate class would you suggest putting Phelps into a man some of whoose records are being broken right now as we speak? The Olympics aren't a separate category of competition that exists on its own
In discussions like this words like panic and outraged often get used as a "when did you stop beating your wife?" device.
In my case as the guy who used it, I was referring with scorn to a certain subset of society - easily found online - for whom issues like the public existence of trans people consume an inordinate amount of their interest and concern, and generate a disproportionate amount of retaliatory noise, frequently not based in fact. This issue with the Algerian boxer has been an absolutely stellar example of it. Not with anything that’s been posted here, just to be clear. But it’s very easy without any real effort to find some prominent people being pretty awful on the subject with this as a springboard, facts notwithstanding.
