Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[Czech_pivo]

I don't often agree with you, but I will here.

I have voted LPC many times in the past. But what JT and LPC has done to this country and to me I just cant forgive. Its still the same party with many of the same people.

If an election were held to day it would be first time I either wouldn't vote or I would spoil my ballot. Not a soul in our parliament is worth my mark or my time at this moment.

Who's left in the LP from JT's years that you 'need to see go' in order for you to close that door and be open to a new door/team under Carney?

 

[Cloud Cover]

How is Halifax involved in this ?

Canada really only exists from Windsor Ont east to Riviere Du Loup Que; and North from Cornwall Ont to Ottawa.

Don't confuse the clapping seals out here as a cohort who belongs to the triangle of Canada.

Huuuuuuuge recipient of Federal largesse.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Who's left in the LP from JT's years that you 'need to see go' in order for you to close that door and be open to a new door/team under Carney?

The LPC hasn't really changed until it can walk away from its anti-firearm policy and massive borrowing/spending big project/program habit.

Big deficit public spending is left of Turner, Mulroney, Martin, Harper. Even Chretien acceded to restraint. Big public projects, new programs, and above all general overspending [are] left-progressive habits; it's just that they usually don't do the latter on defence. Carney is running a bit of a technocratic-leaning financier's experiment with Canada.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Who's left in the LP from JT's years that you 'need to see go' in order for you to close that door and be open to a new door/team under Carney?

All of them.

That party still needs to be flushed.

Huuuuuuuge recipient of Federal largesse.

Fair, I wasn't thinking of transfers. I agree.

 

[MilEME09]

The LPC hasn't really changed until it can walk away from its anti-firearm policy and massive borrowing/spending big project/program habit.

Big deficit public spending is left of Turner, Mulroney, Martin, Harper. Even Chretien acceded to restraint. Big public projects, new programs, and above all general overspending [are] left-progressive habits; it's just that they usually don't do the latter on defence. Carney is running a bit of a technocratic-leaning financier's experiment with Canada.

agree on firearms, however on spending, many are focused in on just this year or spinning the total spending planned over the next 4. If you look at the long term plan, spending isnt increasing, its decreasing. The biggest programs are all major infrastructure etc, not to mention hiking defense spending. It seems more like we set the bar and are raising the economy to it (or trying to with targeted investment etc) rather then just hoping the economy will grow it self (looking at you JT).

Regarding floor crossings, when you look at the diverse swing of views of the floor corssers, Carney is delivering a master class in statecraft to get die hard conservatives to join the liberal camp.

 

[RangerRay]

There will definitely be stuff proposed and even passed at this policy convention that will cause great weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth.

However, as is pointed out when looney-left proposals are passed at NDP conventions or hard-right social conservative proposals are passed at CPC conventions it's important to remember that parties are not bound by the policies passed at these conventions by the general membership.

I'd listen more to the tone and content of the speeches given by the party leadership than the policy items proposed or passed on the floor of the convention for a true sense of what direction the party is heading.

But you have admit that the NDP’s “I-belong-to-a-more-oppressed-group-than-you-and-thus-have-higher-priority-to-speak” was next level.

 

[Brad Sallows]

agree on firearms, however on spending, many are focused in on just this year or spinning the total spending planned over the next 4. If you look at the long term plan, spending isnt increasing, its decreasing. The biggest programs are all major infrastructure etc, not to mention hiking defense spending.

Which spending is going to decrease, and by how much? I simply haven't seen anything about how spending is going to decrease. (% of GDP is a measure of affordability, not spending increase/decrease.)

It seems more like we set the bar and are raising the economy to it (or trying to with targeted investment etc) rather then just hoping the economy will grow it self (looking at you JT).

Canada would be approximately the first country to succeed at borrowing-and-spending (we are not even merely taxing-and-spending) its way to growth if it succeeds. The theory (basically the same idea as capitalism) is sound, but governments lack the incentives and so they fail in application. A prudent estimate of prospects for success is nil.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Putting this out here now - April 9th - that food costs come August-October harvest times here in Canada are going to be markedly higher as a direct result of this little war in Iran. Virtually every single input cost that goes into growing anything will have spiked higher as a direct result of this war and there is NOTHING a Liberal or Conservative or NDP Federal Government could do to reduce this from happening.

 

[Cloud Cover]

Putting this out here now - April 9th - that food costs come August-October harvest times here in Canada are going to be markedly higher as a direct result of this little war in Iran. Virtually every single input cost that goes into growing anything will have spiked higher as a direct result of this war and there is NOTHING a Liberal or Conservative or NDP Federal Government could do to reduce this from happening.

No because Avi Lewis is asking to include grocery subsidies into the 2%.

 

[Cloud Cover]

Which spending is going to decrease, and by how much? I simply haven't seen anything about how spending is going to decrease. (% of GDP is a measure of affordability, not spending increase/decrease.)

Canada would be approximately the first country to succeed at borrowing-and-spending (we are not even merely taxing-and-spending) its way to growth if it succeeds. The theory (basically the same idea as capitalism) is sound, but governments lack the incentives and so they fail in application. A prudent estimate of prospects for success is nil.

Spending isn’t decreasing. It’s all the “asks” that are being turned down that gets vie that impression. If the rate of growth if spend is hyper velocity.

 

[Cloud Cover]

Breaking…

Global News is reporting that 3 Conservative MP’s from British Columbia have crossed




the Straits of Juan de Fuca. Pierre must now resign.

 

[brihard]

Breaking…

Global News is reporting that 3 Conservative MP’s from British Columbia have crossed




the Straits of Juan de Fuca. Pierre must now resign.

I’m not finding this anywhere else? Got a link to anything?

EDIT TO ADD: I’ve definitely got a joke flying over my head here right now.