Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[RangerRay]

There will definitely be stuff proposed and even passed at this policy convention that will cause great weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth.

However, as is pointed out when looney-left proposals are passed at NDP conventions or hard-right social conservative proposals are passed at CPC conventions it's important to remember that parties are not bound by the policies passed at these conventions by the general membership.

I'd listen more to the tone and content of the speeches given by the party leadership than the policy items proposed or passed on the floor of the convention for a true sense of what direction the party is heading.

But you have admit that the NDP’s “I-belong-to-a-more-oppressed-group-than-you-and-thus-have-higher-priority-to-speak” was next level.

 

[Brad Sallows]

agree on firearms, however on spending, many are focused in on just this year or spinning the total spending planned over the next 4. If you look at the long term plan, spending isnt increasing, its decreasing. The biggest programs are all major infrastructure etc, not to mention hiking defense spending.

Which spending is going to decrease, and by how much? I simply haven't seen anything about how spending is going to decrease. (% of GDP is a measure of affordability, not spending increase/decrease.)

It seems more like we set the bar and are raising the economy to it (or trying to with targeted investment etc) rather then just hoping the economy will grow it self (looking at you JT).

Canada would be approximately the first country to succeed at borrowing-and-spending (we are not even merely taxing-and-spending) its way to growth if it succeeds. The theory (basically the same idea as capitalism) is sound, but governments lack the incentives and so they fail in application. A prudent estimate of prospects for success is nil.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Putting this out here now - April 9th - that food costs come August-October harvest times here in Canada are going to be markedly higher as a direct result of this little war in Iran. Virtually every single input cost that goes into growing anything will have spiked higher as a direct result of this war and there is NOTHING a Liberal or Conservative or NDP Federal Government could do to reduce this from happening.

 

[Cloud Cover]

Putting this out here now - April 9th - that food costs come August-October harvest times here in Canada are going to be markedly higher as a direct result of this little war in Iran. Virtually every single input cost that goes into growing anything will have spiked higher as a direct result of this war and there is NOTHING a Liberal or Conservative or NDP Federal Government could do to reduce this from happening.

No because Avi Lewis is asking to include grocery subsidies into the 2%.

 

[Cloud Cover]

Which spending is going to decrease, and by how much? I simply haven't seen anything about how spending is going to decrease. (% of GDP is a measure of affordability, not spending increase/decrease.)

Canada would be approximately the first country to succeed at borrowing-and-spending (we are not even merely taxing-and-spending) its way to growth if it succeeds. The theory (basically the same idea as capitalism) is sound, but governments lack the incentives and so they fail in application. A prudent estimate of prospects for success is nil.

Spending isn’t decreasing. It’s all the “asks” that are being turned down that gets vie that impression. If the rate of growth if spend is hyper velocity.

 

[Cloud Cover]

Breaking…

Global News is reporting that 3 Conservative MP’s from British Columbia have crossed




the Straits of Juan de Fuca. Pierre must now resign.

 

[brihard]

Breaking…

Global News is reporting that 3 Conservative MP’s from British Columbia have crossed




the Straits of Juan de Fuca. Pierre must now resign.

I’m not finding this anywhere else? Got a link to anything?

EDIT TO ADD: I’ve definitely got a joke flying over my head here right now.

 

[ArmyRick]

I’m not finding this anywhere else? Got a link to anything?

EDIT TO ADD: I’ve definitely got a joke flying over my head here right now.

Yeah, I got caught in that as well.

 

[brihard]

Yeah, I got caught in that as well.

I’m guessing it has something to do with smelly hippies not voting CPC or something. I’mma grab a coffee.

 

[MilEME09]

people seem to really be rocking the CPC boat right now

https://twitter.com/x/status/2042346046060130599

 

[ArmyRick]

people seem to really be rocking the CPC boat right now

https://twitter.com/x/status/2042346046060130599

No. Just people gullible enough to believe stuff like this. You.

 

[Navy_Pete]

No. Just people gullible enough to believe stuff like this. You.

This is actually fully consistent with what David Orchard himself said right after the merger and repeatedly since and that MacKay promised him it wouldn't happen. He even took them to court and included a lot of this in the case.

Legal Documents — Opposition to the Merger

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/orch...-attack-against-tory-alliance-merger-1.398080

MacKay alludes to Orchard as party traitor

 

[ArmyRick]

Redirect your honour.

Wouldn't it be easier and simpler if Mark carney crossed the floor to the CPC and took them over? He can bring his front bench if need be.

 

[MilEME09]

expansion of the PoM begins

Port expansion near Montreal is first ‘nation-building’ project to begin construction

The terminal is in Contrecœur, Que., about 45 kilometres northeast of Montreal

www.theglobeandmail.com

 

[RangerRay]

people seem to really be rocking the CPC boat right now

https://twitter.com/x/status/2042346046060130599

Isn’t this old news?

 

[HavokFour]

She speak.

Risks and rewards: Conservative MP Marilyn Gladu on her defection to the Liberals

After 11 years with the Conservatives, the Sarnia-Lambton- Bkejwanong MP is crossing to the Liberals.

nationalpost.com

Archive

 

[MilEME09]

Isn’t this old news?

Probably but point is people are digging everything to jab at the CPC

 

[Cloud Cover]

Redirect your honour.

Wouldn't it be easier and simpler if Mark carney crossed the floor to the CPC and took them over? He can bring his front bench if need be.

This I will defend.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Probably but point is people are digging everything to jab at the CPC

Has anyone brought up the issue about the 'helpers' not helping that much?

How the West’s ‘Sore Losers’ Hurt Canada, and Their Cause​

Rather than contributing to Poilievre’s “Canada First” vision, leaders like Alberta’s Danielle Smith and former Reform leader Preston Manning are pursuing regional defiance that threatens not only federal Conservative prospects but also the unity of the country itself.

Some conservative leaders in the West are refusing to do the hard work of building bridges across provinces. Instead, they are undermining national institutions, elevating regional grievances and offering what we might call performative disengagement. The tactic may win headlines and satisfy the base, but it weakens the broader conservative project at a critical moment in our country’s history.

How the West’s ‘Sore Losers’ Hurt Canada, and Their Cause | The Tyee

Danielle Smith and Preston Manning are undermining our democracy.

thetyee.ca

 

[Halifax Tar]

Putting this out here now - April 9th - that food costs come August-October harvest times here in Canada are going to be markedly higher as a direct result of this little war in Iran. Virtually every single input cost that goes into growing anything will have spiked higher as a direct result of this war and there is NOTHING a Liberal or Conservative or NDP Federal Government could do to reduce this from happening.

Then cuts the taxes from all food and fuel products.

I know you're looking to get ahead and give your man top cover.