Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[Jarnhamar]

So do the less than 50 percent not count? Or are we to assume that every single person voted for party and not individual? Or are we to assume that nobody has changed their minds since then?

Im not going to sit here and defend first past the post, but in terms of how things work, there are many constituents, who voted for many reasons, not simply because of party, and not all of them may be of like mind today

Anti-vax, opposition to aspects of LGBTQ+ policy, "traditional family values", pro freedom convoy, strong supporter of Oil & gas sector, conservative MP suddenly "listens to Liberal and NDP constituents" and has a change of heart. That's a Hallmark movie in the making.

 

[Altair]

Anti-vax, opposition to aspects of LGBTQ+ policy, "traditional family values", pro freedom convoy, strong supporter of Oil & gas sector, conservative MP suddenly "listens to Liberal and NDP constituents" and has a change of heart. That's a Hallmark movie in the making.

How bad are things in the CPC that someone like that comes to the conclusion that the LPC is better?

I think we are seeing something unprecedented in Canadian federal politics. 4 floor crossers from one party, 1 from another in a year.

Last time we saw movement like this was what, 1990? 6 conservatives, 2 liberals to form the Bloc Québécois? And that was after the failure of Meech Lake.

So either Carney is that good, or PP is that bad or Trump is causing a seismic shift in Canadian politics on par with Meech lake or a combination of all three.

I'm going to go with a combination of all three.

 

[Czech_pivo]

How bad are things in the CPC that someone like that comes to the conclusion that the LPC is better?

I think we are seeing something unprecedented in Canadian federal politics. 4 floor crossers from one party, 1 from another in a year.

Last time we saw movement like this was what, 1990? 6 conservatives, 2 liberals to form the Bloc Québécois? And that was after the failure of Meech Lake.

So either Carney is that good, or PP is that bad or Trump is causing a seismic shift in Canadian politics on par with Meech lake or a combination of all three.

I'm going to go with a combination of all three.

I’d say a mixture of all 3 as well.
Carney can’t walk on water. PP doesn’t seem to be the boogie man and Trump, well he is what he is.

 

[Altair]

I’d say a mixture of all 3 as well.
Carney can’t walk on water. PP doesn’t seem to be the boogie man and Trump, well he is what he is.

As long as you recognise you are saying that people are crossing the floor in unprecedented numbers because Carney cannot walk on water and PP isn't a boogie man.

Seems to be weird reasons to cross to the floor, but that might just be me.

 

[Altair]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/analysis-alberta-separation-indigenous-treaty-rights-court-9.7160026

“It’s just hard to see how any province could separate from Canada with its existing borders attached if Indigenous people of that province are opposed,” he said.

It’s not a formal veto, Macfarlane said, “but it would flow from an application and a recognition of the treaty system as part of the Constitution. And if a province can't unilaterally tear up a treaty, which we know they can't, then they are at the very least indirectly prevented from secession.”

I would find it incredibly hilarious if this half baked nonsensical temper tantrum being lead by Jeffrey Rath accidentally kneecaps the Quebec sovereignty movement.

In a weird roundabout way, Jeffrey Rath and Danielle Smith might end up strengthening Canada for generations.

 

[Czech_pivo]

As long as you recognise you are saying that people are crossing the floor in unprecedented numbers because Carney cannot walk on water and PP isn't a boogie man.

Seems to be weird reasons to cross to the floor, but that might just be me.

Maybe there’s a sense of the need for a ‘Unity’ style government right now.