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Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

something to watch for tomorrow, if true, this is a major win for canadian aerospace

Nice! That’s the Bombardier C Series Airbus bought into. Built in Canada. There are already some 500 in service and with current orders (not counting this one) the fleet’s already set to double; they’re basically a 737 and E-190 competitor. This will be a substantial add to the global fleet.
 
Former governors general claimed $554K from expense account last year
Carney says he will look into whether allowance program needs greater transparency

The program, which launched in 1979 and has been shrouded in secrecy, allows each former governor general to bill up to $206,040 per year, on top of their pensions.

The government paid out $554,000 including taxes in reimbursements in the 2024-25 fiscal year to support five former governors general, Rideau Hall told CBC News.

The Governor General's office will not say who was reimbursed or what the money was spent on. Rideau Hall would only say that there are five living former governors general who can access the program.

Sounds like quite the scam. Each former GG can expense up to $206,040 per year, on top of their pensions.

At the very least Carney should order more transparency. Ideally, get rid of it.
 
Former governors general claimed $554K from expense account last year






Sounds like quite the scam. Each former GG can expense up to $206,040 per year, on top of their pensions.

At the very least Carney should order more transparency. Ideally, get rid of it.

Every Veteran with 12 or more years paid service can expense up to $90,000 for bullshit courses, on top of their pensions. I've seen retired Colonels take Cordon Bleu chef courses. Sounds like quite the scam.
 
Every Veteran (except 90% of Class A Reservists) with 12 or more years paid service can expense up to $90,000 for bullshit courses, on top of their pensions. I've seen retired Colonels take Cordon Bleu chef courses. Sounds like quite the scam.

There, dragged us into the 'Reserves' thread again for you ;)
 
Every Veteran with 12 or more years paid service can expense up to $90,000 for bullshit courses, on top of their pensions. I've seen retired Colonels take Cordon Bleu chef courses. Sounds like quite the scam.

So not a secret and hidden from public? That's not bad. I'll meet in the middle ground. Former GG's can expense $45,000 for their 5 years of service once.
 
Can't be great for the whole Liberal Party brand thing, such as it is, but the 'Dauphin' clearly does not GAF ...


Trudeau can live his post political life however he wants, but it will invariably reflect on his time in office

At present, Canada is not just walking back some policies implemented under Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, but totally reversing course: We are slashing immigration, abandoning climate-change measures, shrinking the public service, rewriting bail and sentencing policy, scrapping planned changes to capital-gains taxation, spending big on national defence and so on. Canada is very much in the early stages of dealing with the last decade of mismanagement, during which, according to a just-published RBC report, $1-trillion in investment exited Canada, which constitutes “the largest capital exodus in Canadian history.” Under this long shadow, Mr. Trudeau is on a ski lift alongside Prince Harry, and dancing with Katy Perry at Coachella, which is the type of trip that, just one year ago, he encouraged Canadians to avoid in protest of the tariffs imposed by U.S. President Donald Trump. One might’ve expected just a touch more humility.

Mr. Trudeau can live his post prime-ministerial life however he wants, of course, and no one should fault him for deciding to have some fun. But the choice to share these escapades at a time when Canada is grappling with the effects of a half-dozen of his most disastrous policy decisions reveals something of his personal nature, and sheds some light on how Canada came to be in its current state. That is, it explains some things that the guy in a backwards cap slurping noodles at Coachella – with his girlfriend sharing photos of it all – was, barely over a year ago, the leader of a G7 nation. Just as it explains something of Mr. Bush’s tenure that no one around him, even in retirement, was brave enough to suggest he spend a few more years working on his technique before exhibiting his portraits.

We can’t expect anything of politicians when they leave public office, but we can notice their behaviours and reflect on them. This information tells us who we might want to lead our country in future, and who might be better left to the concert circuit.

Trudeau can live his postpolitical life however he wants, but it will invariably reflect on his time in office - The Globe and Mail
 
USA: We'll build libraries / museums for former presidents.

Canada: We hate former GGs.

Former national leaders should be encouraged and supported to remain engaged and involved in civic life.

Each GG is spending about the salary of a MWO IPC 4 (non spec) or Capt IPC 4 (GSO) (excluding employer costs and any allowances).

If you can guarantee me that there are not five MWO / Capt+ in the CAF who aren't pulling their weight, I will agree that support to former GGs should be kiboshed.

(I am not asking for a list of names ;) )
 
Can't be great for the whole Liberal Party brand thing, such as it is, but the 'Dauphin' clearly does not GAF ...


Trudeau can live his post political life however he wants, but it will invariably reflect on his time in office

At present, Canada is not just walking back some policies implemented under Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, but totally reversing course: We are slashing immigration, abandoning climate-change measures, shrinking the public service, rewriting bail and sentencing policy, scrapping planned changes to capital-gains taxation, spending big on national defence and so on. Canada is very much in the early stages of dealing with the last decade of mismanagement, during which, according to a just-published RBC report, $1-trillion in investment exited Canada, which constitutes “the largest capital exodus in Canadian history.” Under this long shadow, Mr. Trudeau is on a ski lift alongside Prince Harry, and dancing with Katy Perry at Coachella, which is the type of trip that, just one year ago, he encouraged Canadians to avoid in protest of the tariffs imposed by U.S. President Donald Trump. One might’ve expected just a touch more humility.

Mr. Trudeau can live his post prime-ministerial life however he wants, of course, and no one should fault him for deciding to have some fun. But the choice to share these escapades at a time when Canada is grappling with the effects of a half-dozen of his most disastrous policy decisions reveals something of his personal nature, and sheds some light on how Canada came to be in its current state. That is, it explains some things that the guy in a backwards cap slurping noodles at Coachella – with his girlfriend sharing photos of it all – was, barely over a year ago, the leader of a G7 nation. Just as it explains something of Mr. Bush’s tenure that no one around him, even in retirement, was brave enough to suggest he spend a few more years working on his technique before exhibiting his portraits.

We can’t expect anything of politicians when they leave public office, but we can notice their behaviours and reflect on them. This information tells us who we might want to lead our country in future, and who might be better left to the concert circuit.

Trudeau can live his postpolitical life however he wants, but it will invariably reflect on his time in office - The Globe and Mail
Listen, if a significant portion of the country raises flags asking for people to fornicate with the man, I won't begrudge him for having fun with an objectively attractive pop star who decided to follow their instructions.
 
There, dragged us into the 'Reserves' thread again for you ;)
I specified paid years. A class A reservist who retires after 25 calendar years, with a year of cumulative class B (courses etc) and an average of 55 days class A per year would qualify for half that amount. (55 x 1.4 x 24 + 365 is just over six years paid time).

They would also have had access to the Reserve Educational Reimbursement program (in some ways a better deal than the VAC money, since unlike the VAC benefit it's not taxable) of 50% of tuition and books to a limit of $2k annually / $8k lifetime.
 
Every Veteran with 12 or more years paid service can expense up to $90,000 for bullshit courses, on top of their pensions. I've seen retired Colonels take Cordon Bleu chef courses. Sounds like quite the scam.

How is this a scam? It's an education benefit. Why do you care what people want to study after their military careers? Also, how would you even administer controls? We going to create a list of which ranks and which trades can study what topics after their career?

By the way, I know people that have done the actual cordon bleu diploma. It's actual chef training. Not just fancy cooking class.
 
How is this a scam? It's an education benefit. Why do you care what people want to study after their military careers? Also, how would you even administer controls? We going to create a list of which ranks and which trades can study what topics after their career?

By the way, I know people that have done the actual cordon bleu diploma. It's actual chef training. Not just fancy cooking class.
My point is that GGs individually cost about the same as a single VAC education cost.

Probably not a huge drain on the public purse, relatively speaking.
 
My point is that GGs individually cost about the same as a single VAC education cost.

Probably not a huge drain on the public purse, relatively speaking.
Based on the 2021 census, 80,000+ vets with 10+ years of service. So lets say each takes the 90k. Thats $7,200,000,000 on vet education benefits. Compared to this, GG is a drop in the bucket.
 
USA: We'll build libraries / museums for former presidents.

Canada: We hate former GGs.

Former national leaders should be encouraged and supported to remain engaged and involved in civic life.

Each GG is spending about the salary of a MWO IPC 4 (non spec) or Capt IPC 4 (GSO) (excluding employer costs and any allowances).

If you can guarantee me that there are not five MWO / Capt+ in the CAF who aren't pulling their weight, I will agree that support to former GGs should be kiboshed.

(I am not asking for a list of names ;) )

A common theme here is that we need to normalize and incentivize not having to spend a full 25 years in the military. Get in, do some stuff, move on as a productive member of the civilian work force. The VAC Education money for 6 and 12 years service is great for that. Whether it's a Lt Col or a Cpl. Less so for the former.

It's quite different than 70 or 80+ year old former GG's who made $400K/yr for 5 years getting a hidden slush fund for the rest of their life.

Buying them a new car every year would hardly break the bank; it's the principle not the dollar amount.
 
Based on the 2021 census, 80,000+ vets with 10+ years of service. So lets say each takes the 90k. Thats $7,200,000,000 on vet education benefits. Compared to this, GG is a drop in the bucket.
What about the same fund for MPs once they retire? Or former party leaders, say Poilievre after he moves on?
 
My point is that GGs individually cost about the same as a single VAC education cost.

Probably not a huge drain on the public purse, relatively speaking.

I had a CO that took ages to sign off 152s because they were writing off 60K; and that was more than what the average Canadian made. It truly concerned him. And he would bring me in to talk about them all the time. I appreciated his concern, but my quarterly's come due... every quarter.

How many of these little drains are making up the big drain ?
 
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