Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[Altair]

Where's his source? The graph is current data not future projections

it was based on the immigration growth of the past few years and was being posted to facebook as of last year.

 

[ArmyRick]

From google AI (take with a grain of skepticism)

The OECD ranks Canada among the lowest of its member nations for GDP per capita growth, particularly over the last decade. While aggregate GDP has shown resilience, persistent population growth has masked weak per-capita performance, resulting in Canada having one of the weakest standards-of-living growth rates in the developed world.

• Long-Term Projection: The OECD projects Canada will rank dead last (38th out of 38) in real GDP per capita growth among member countries from 2020–2030 and 2030–2060.
• Recent Performance: From 2014 to 2022, Canada ranked third-lowest out of 30 OECD countries for average growth in GDP per capita.
• Post-Pandemic Recovery: Canada experienced the 5th weakest recovery in real GDP per capita among OECD countries between 2019 and 2022.
• Income Decline: Canadian GDP per capita fell below the OECD average in 2022, and it is projected to fall further behind, with projections suggesting it could be US \(\$8,617\) below the average by 2060.
• Context: This underperformance is largely attributed to weak productivity growth, low capital investment per worker, and high population growth outpacing economic output. (Source is OECD)

Conversely, in terms of aggregate (total) GDP growth, Canada has often performed closer to the middle of the pack due to high population increases, but this does not translate to higher individual prosperity.

 

[Brad Sallows]

OECD reports…

Refers to per capita growth.

One observation is that Canada's per capita GDP is already pretty high, so there might just be less room for improvement.

Another observation, though, is that Canada's per capita GDP is not as high as the US and the OECD seems to think the US is going to do well.

Not a good indicator for Canada.

 

[Altair]

OECD reports…

https://twitter.com/x/status/2052443986967601227

If you get a tweet about a report without a link to said report, 9 times out of 10 you're being spoon fed BS.

 

[ArmyRick]

Refers to per capita growth.

One observation is that Canada's per capita GDP is already pretty high, so there might just be less room for improvement.

Another observation, though, is that Canada's per capita GDP is not as high as the US and the OECD seems to think the US is going to do well.

Not a good indicator for Canada.

I can't remember if it was Toronto Sun or The Hub or whatever, but they said USA GDP gowth was projected to be double of Canada's this year and next year

 

[MilEME09]

If you get a tweet about a report without a link to said report, 9 times out of 10 you're being spoon fed BS.

Pretty much, not to mention the evidence provided doesnt support the statement

 

[Brad Sallows]

Pretty much, not to mention the evidence provided doesnt support the statement

No, but if you search the topic, the evidence exists, in this case. Whether Canada occupies position #38 I don't know, but the numbers are very unfavourable. Hiding behind an "Aha!" doesn't make things better for us.

 

[Altair]

Pretty much, not to mention the evidence provided doesnt support the statement

Social media is the worse sometimes.

Pure brainrot

 

[brihard]

OECD reports…

https://twitter.com/x/status/2052443986967601227

The graph in the tweet showing 2015-2024 data doesn’t appear to bear any relationship to the headline claim. Do you check this slop before posting it?

 

[ArmyRick]

If you want to deep dive, go for it

https://www.oecd.org/en/topics/sub-issues/economic-surveys/canada-economic-snapshot.html

A few here don't want to hear news thats not so good for Canada. Either choose to face reality or keep ignoring it pretending its not so.

 

[brihard]

If you want to deep dive, go for it

https://www.oecd.org/en/topics/sub-issues/economic-surveys/canada-economic-snapshot.html

A few here don't want to hear news thats not so good for Canada. Either choose to face reality or keep ignoring it pretending it’s not so.

Some of us like actual evidence. Can you please point us to what on that website projects Canada’s GDP growth relative to other states by 20260? The onus is on someone making or defending a claim to back it up.

Any GDP Growth projection gets pretty questionable any more than a few years out.

 

[ArmyRick]

Some of us like actual evidence. Can you please point us to what on that website projects Canada’s GDP growth relative to other states by 20260? The onus is on someone making or defending a claim to back it up.

Any GDP Growth projection gets pretty questionable any more than a few years out.

Read, son, read.

I accept the original X post so I am ok with it.

 

[MilEME09]

Some of us like actual evidence. Can you please point us to what on that website projects Canada’s GDP growth relative to other states by 20260? The onus is on someone making or defending a claim to back it up.

Any GDP Growth projection gets pretty questionable any more than a few years out.

Not to mention GDP per capita should be accelerating upward as immigration is clawed back

 

[Altair]

Some of us like actual evidence. Can you please point us to what on that website projects Canada’s GDP growth relative to other states by 20260? The onus is on someone making or defending a claim to back it up.

Any GDP Growth projection gets pretty questionable any more than a few years out.

The tweet passes the truthiness test, all that matters to some.

 

[brihard]

Read, son, read.

I accept the original X post so I am ok with it.

You haven’t pointed me at anything specific to read, dad.

If you have a preference for accepting X posts that are inconsistent and contradictory on their very face, you don’t have a leg to stand on trying to lecture anyone else about verifying information they consume and rely on. You’re perfectly displaying The problem we as a society have with a garbage information space.

The tweet does not cite its sources in a way that allows anyone else to check and verify it. Maybe it’s my academic leanings, maybe it’s my professional experience having to back what I say for court- but my expectation is that a claim shows receipts if I’m to rely on it.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Most searches will turn up links to information synthesized from OECD reports.

OECD sources are difficult to pin down, but can be found for those interested. Many will be PDFs. Be sure to check publication dates; some are outdated by a decade or more.

 

[daftandbarmy]

From google AI (take with a grain of skepticism)

The OECD ranks Canada among the lowest of its member nations for GDP per capita growth, particularly over the last decade. While aggregate GDP has shown resilience, persistent population growth has masked weak per-capita performance, resulting in Canada having one of the weakest standards-of-living growth rates in the developed world.

• Long-Term Projection: The OECD projects Canada will rank dead last (38th out of 38) in real GDP per capita growth among member countries from 2020–2030 and 2030–2060.
• Recent Performance: From 2014 to 2022, Canada ranked third-lowest out of 30 OECD countries for average growth in GDP per capita.
• Post-Pandemic Recovery: Canada experienced the 5th weakest recovery in real GDP per capita among OECD countries between 2019 and 2022.
• Income Decline: Canadian GDP per capita fell below the OECD average in 2022, and it is projected to fall further behind, with projections suggesting it could be US \(\$8,617\) below the average by 2060.
• Context: This underperformance is largely attributed to weak productivity growth, low capital investment per worker, and high population growth outpacing economic output. (Source is OECD)

Conversely, in terms of aggregate (total) GDP growth, Canada has often performed closer to the middle of the pack due to high population increases, but this does not translate to higher individual prosperity.

Along with other poor performing economic indicators, this tells us that Canada is circling the bowl.

Not a great place to invest, amongst other things.

 

[brihard]

Most searches will turn up links to information synthesized from OECD reports.

OECD sources are difficult to pin down, but can be found for those interested. Many will be PDFs. Be sure to check publication dates; some are outdated by a decade or more.

I did some searching on this one with similar results. I believe we’re being treated to regurgitated editorializing from several years ago, derived from analysis of reports earlier still.

Not to suggest Canada is an economic panacea. Far from it. But the claim made in that tweet doesn’t seem to hold up with any demonstrable currency.

 

[ArmyRick]

Along with other poor performing economic indicators, this tells us that Canada is circling the bowl.

Not a great place to invest, amongst other things.

One principle of war that would benefit Canada as a whole is Select and Maintain the Aim.

This thread alone with these last couple of post shows we have a few here arguing over the "validity" of the X post rather than focus on the fact that Canada is in trouble.

Our society as a whole functions the same way.

 

[Altair]

I did some searching on this one with similar results. I believe we’re being treated to regurgitated editorializing from several years ago, derived from analysis of reports earlier still.

Not to suggest Canada is an economic panacea. Far from it. But the claim made in that tweet doesn’t seem to hold up with any demonstrable currency.

Dont bother.

You will spend time and energy trying to track down the truth of the slop and even when you come with the actual data the person who posted it won't believe you or care, and will move on to the next slop twitter post.