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Why have NORAD as well? Or FVEYs?If were already there with NATO why do we need JEF too ?

Why have NORAD as well? Or FVEYs?If were already there with NATO why do we need JEF too ?
I would say then, Why did the UK create JEF then?If were already there with NATO why do we need JEF too ?
Because after Brexit, they were no longer welcome in EU formations such as the EuroCorps. This gets them bacj in the "Defence of the EU" game, and tied to a specific strategic problemI would say then, Why did the UK create JEF then?
But because NATO get them all except Eurocorps?Because after Brexit, they were no longer welcome in EU formations such as the EuroCorps. This gets them bacj in the "Defence of the EU" game, and tied to a specific strategic problem
Maybe they are looking g for a new best friend or two?NATO means US leadership. The JEF is under Brit leadership, comprised of European TCNs.
The Brits are being spurned by the US, and is no longer part of the EU. They have lost a lot of relevance for a P5 Nation.....whose nuclear capability is subject to US control.
So they have to decide if they want to be part of a branch plant with no real say, or build their own company?
Well, one of the things you learn in Ottawa is that NATO is very limiting in what can be done in it's framework. For example, if we want weather products from our NATO allies, we need to be on a NATO operation. A Canadian ship sailing around Europe can't just get access to NATO weather services, unless it is chopped into a NATO TG. So we have agreements with the UK and Germany to share weather data.If were already there with NATO why do we need JEF too ?
An organisation dominated by Europeans is heavily bureaucratic?Well, one of the things you learn in Ottawa is that NATO is very limiting in what can be done in it's framework. For example, if we want weather products from our NATO allies, we need to be on a NATO operation. A Canadian ship sailing around Europe can't just get access to NATO weather services, unless it is chopped into a NATO TG. So we have agreements with the UK and Germany to share weather data.
If we are that difficult about weather, we are even more difficult on other topics. That's why JEF, NORAD, etc., exist.
An organisation dominated by Europeans is heavily bureaucratic?
If by huff you mean delusional mass psychosis responding to a question that didn't need to be asked, without bothering to understand any element of the problem, then huff it is.Ironically, so bureaucratic that the country who invented the term 'red tape' found it all too onerous and left in a huff...
If by huff you mean delusional mass psychosis responding to a question that didn't need to be asked, without bothering to understand any element of the problem, then huff it is.
Otherwise, they are sitting in a hole they dug nursing the foot they shot.
For what it’s worth, David Cameron is really, really sorry about how it all played out…If by huff you mean delusional mass psychosis responding to a question that didn't need to be asked, without bothering to understand any element of the problem, then huff it is.
Otherwise, they are sitting in a hole they dug nursing the foot they shot.
I suppose Norway snd Iceland have also then made critical errors not fulky becoming members of the EU, what could possibly convince whole countries to not want to join this premier union of states?If by huff you mean delusional mass psychosis responding to a question that didn't need to be asked, without bothering to understand any element of the problem, then huff it is.
Otherwise, they are sitting in a hole they dug nursing the foot they shot.
I was speaking to how the Liberals can approve it regardless of the debate or votes by other parties in Parliament.bit of a jump to call it approval, its a proposal, but politicians, just like your platoon commander giving orders, like to talk in definites.