Logistic Vehicle Modernization Project - Replacing everything from LUVW to SHLVW

[Colin Parkinson]

To a point, but keep in mind nearly every single western AFV that wasn't captured by Russia, was able to be recovered and repaired for use, and all the crews but one Challenger 2 crew survived the engagement that took out their vehicle.

Russia on the other hand has been losing crews and vehicles at unprecedented rates (well unprecedented for the last 70 years). Quantity isn't it's own form of Quality anymore.

Massive - and unarmored.

I would suggest that for a practical larger scale conflict that Canada needs to be able to create armored vehicles that aren't armored by afterthought of throwing additional armor on a vehicle after it was designed - but working with a manufacturer to come up with purpose built vehicles that incorporate an armor package from day 1 - of which some of the armor package is removable when not needed (but the chassis is purpose built as an armored vehicle).

I would also suggest that Canada find an OEM they can work with for a fleet of Tracked Armored Vehicles, including Tracked Armored Logistics vehicles.

Start supporting Roshel by buying their current fleet to fill some of our holes and guarantee them we spend X amount buy a purpose designed 4x4 AFV from them in the 1.5ton cargo range. If you think anyone is going to build another full AFV here without that insured support, them your just dreaming. You got to crawl before you can walk and run. If we continue to buy every year, eventually they have a better protected version designed and built here or a licenced designed built by them here.

 

[FJAG]

We have a dozen ACSV in 1 RCHA.

CPs? Amb? Troop/Cargo? More to come?

I'd be interested in the details as its going to figure into WAFG Vol 2 Epilogue.

 

[Prairie canuck]

Dude, we are trying to talk about trucks. You are not. Stop trying to thread hijack.

Give it a rest, It was 1 post out of over 800. And it certainly hasn't distracted anyone else but you.

 

[FJAG]

It is cheaper because it has nowhere near the same survivability.

It is in the same boat as the LENCO Bearcat, it is a domestic armored car that can work for LE, and Armored Car services. Far away from any anticipated combat it can work to protect against haphazard bombardment as a on road protected mobility ambulance/taxi - but it doesn't have the armor nor the mobility to go anywhere near an active combat zone.

Kit is cheap (even when it is expensive), people are not.

What defines an "active combat zone?" Clearly it is not optimal to be up there with the LAVs and tanks, but I can certainly see it in many rear roles that are not the usual artillery magnets. Kit isn't cheap either, and every dollar one can save on B ech vehicles means an extra dollar to spend on more or better F ech vehicles.

 

[quadrapiper]

Survivability is a luxury when you have low intensity fighting.

This is waaaay outside my field... is part of the issue in higher-intensity settings that, if you do find yourself in not the rear area, you're more likely to be bumping into tanks and/or people going loaded for tanks?

 

[markppcli]

CPs? Amb? Troop/Cargo? More to come?

I'd be interested in the details as its going to figure into WAFG Vol 2 Epilogue.

Troop carriers and CPs as far as I was tracking.