Logistic Vehicle Modernization Project - Replacing everything from LUVW to SHLVW

[Eaglelord17]

Where are you going to get "secure" Canadians to do the maintenance work if they don't exist in the civilian world?

All very well calling for more uniformed Canadians to do the service but qualified techs do not seem to exist. Just like qualified sailors.

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If people to repar kit can't be found then don't repair kit. Buy disposable kit in abundance. And don't put crews inside them.

It’s called training, if you can’t find what you need naturally you make it.

Infantry doesn’t naturally exist in the civilian world yet we somehow make them too.

Techs can be the same way, the only issue is it takes longer to make a tech than a infanteer. 4+ years working on equipment/training to make a tradesman civvy side. We add a bunch of military stuff in there too so to reach the same proficiency your likely looking at 6 years to the same level as your average red seal at fixing things.

It also doesn’t fit as well with our rank progression system because we expect a Cpl to be fully capable on the working side and any rank after that they start moving them out of the trade side of things into leadership/planning a whole other beast.

A two year college course doesn’t cut it for knowledge, thats the opener for most people learning how to actually do their job.

 

[Brad Sallows]

A two year college course doesn’t cut it for knowledge, thats the opener for most people learning how to actually do their job.

This is where long-term strategic thinking enters.

Canada should not only plan to be in the same kind of position the US was relative to the other belligerents (all sides) in WW II, but plan to be running in that direction before widespread hostilities begin. Capable of manufacturing complex equipment at scale. Lots of commonality, reducing complexity for suppliers and maintainers. A "so what" for the latter is that it doesn't take two years to train a heavy equipment mechanic to service a handful of different types.

Whether the peacetime force meets these aspirations is less critical than knowing in advance what a wartime force will do. As each fleet enters service and experience is gained, point to selected ones and say "that's our next candidate for wartime production for that capability".

 

[Kirkhill]

It’s called training, if you can’t find what you need naturally you make it.

Infantry doesn’t naturally exist in the civilian world yet we somehow make them too.

Techs can be the same way, the only issue is it takes longer to make a tech than a infanteer. 4+ years working on equipment/training to make a tradesman civvy side. We add a bunch of military stuff in there too so to reach the same proficiency your likely looking at 6 years to the same level as your average red seal at fixing things.

It also doesn’t fit as well with our rank progression system because we expect a Cpl to be fully capable on the working side and any rank after that they start moving them out of the trade side of things into leadership/planning a whole other beast.

A two year college course doesn’t cut it for knowledge, thats the opener for most people learning how to actually do their job.

I agree that people improve with time and experience.
But most mechanics tend to the younger end of the spectrum and you want them to be useful as soon as you open the box.
We have trades schools. Agreed.
What we don't seem to have is people willing to enter them in the numbers we need.

 

[Eaglelord17]

I agree that people improve with time and experience.
But most mechanics tend to the younger end of the spectrum and you want them to be useful as soon as you open the box.
We have trades schools. Agreed.
What we don't seem to have is people willing to enter them in the numbers we need.

Number one thing holding people back currently is inability to get a apprenticeship. Lots of people want to do the training, actually getting to that point is hard.

The amount of people I have met willing to do a apprenticeship is much greater than those who actually end up doing one.