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[reality_therapy]

LMAO Camochick and Peter!!!

Thanks Old Medic...had a look at the site and nothing I see there to worry about.

All the replies are appreciated. I'll see how it goes!

Cheers,

Reality  :dontpanic:

 

[Ghost]

Drink lots of water before you go so you can go when you get there

 

[Korus]

Yes...and when you have to drop your pants and bend over try to remember that it's not personal....

No no no.. That doesn't happen at the Medical at all.. It happens on Basic.  ;D


Cheers;

Roger

 

[Donut]

Remember, there's nothing at all to worry about until you feel BOTH hands on your shoulder.  ;D

 

[Joe Blow]

Finally went for the CFAT last week (It's not so bad) but was taken a bit by surprise when I was asked to fill out a questionnaire indicating what drugs I have done, when and how often.  I'll filled it out to the best of my ability at the time, however I am concerned about one answer in particular.

For one of the indicated drugs I answered that I had only consumed it once.  When I came home and went over it with my wife (whom I have know since we were quite young) she paused and effectively said; "what about this time ...and that time ...and the other time."  I know It's a silly mistake to make, but bit of a pop quiz and I felt a bit rushed as I was the last one in the room to complete it.  Anyway, needless to say my hand met my forehead pretty quickly.

I have considered just writing a note and including it in my file, explaining the error and providing a correction.  However given that the consequences of misrepresenting yourself on this form can be so dramatic (ie. release) I would be interested in gaining some feedback. 

How might you handle this situation and what might you recommend. I invite replies from everyone of course but would be especially interested in hearing from those in the recruiting field.

Regards,
Joe

 

[kincanucks]

Finally went for the CFAT last week (It's not so bad) but was taken a bit by surprise when I was asked to fill out a questionnaire indicating what drugs I have done, when and how often.   I'll filled it out to the best of my ability at the time, however I am concerned about one answer in particular.

For one of the indicated drugs I answered that I had only consumed it once.   When I came home and went over it with my wife (whom I have know since we were quite young) she paused and effectively said; "what about this time ...and that time ...and the other time."   I know It's a silly mistake to make, but bit of a pop quiz and I felt a bit rushed as I was the last one in the room to complete it.   Anyway, needless to say my hand met my forehead pretty quickly.

I have considered just writing a note and including it in my file, explaining the error and providing a correction.   However given that the consequences of misrepresenting yourself on this form can be so dramatic (ie. release) I would be interested in gaining some feedback.  

How might you handle this situation and what might you recommend. I invite replies from everyone of course but would be especially interested in hearing from those in the recruiting field.

Regards,
Joe

I am assuming that you have not had an interview yet?  If so it is not too late to provide more information about prior drug use.  The interviewer will go over the questionnaire with you again during the interview.  Make sure you provide the additional information.

 

[Joe Blow]

Thank-you for your reply kincanucks.  I was a bit worried that I might have sabotaged myself there.  I will certainly provide more complete information in my interview (...and perhaps write that note for good measure).

Can you tell me if the discrepancy between the information provided in my questionnaire and my interview will result in any delay in processing my file, or a rating of some kind that might affect my merit listing?

Thanks!

 

[kincanucks]

Thank-you for your reply kincanucks.   I was a bit worried that I might have sabotaged myself there.   I will certainly provide more complete information in my interview (...and perhaps write that note for good measure).

Can you tell me if the discrepancy between the information provided in my questionnaire and my interview will result in any delay in processing my file, or a rating of some kind that might affect my merit listing?

Thanks!

Sorry can't answer that on this forum.  Just be honest.  Cheers.

 

[mjr payne]

Today i received a letter from cfb Borden about my medical, it stated that since i had a prolonged use of drugs i am not eligible for employment in a reg force or reserve. And then it goes on to say that If i do not suffer from any complications as a result of street drugs and if treatment is not indicated i may be reconsidered. And this has to be done by a drug addiction specialist and my family physician.

This is all fine and dandy but the part that bothers me is that it says "Prior to obtaining this report, I must be assured that you have discussed your drug history with the military career counsellor at the Recruiting Center.  It is entirely possible that you violate the Canadian Forces Drug policy"

What bothers me about this is that obviously i told the medical officer about my previous drug use so why do they think i would hide it form any other Recruiting personell and why doesn't the medical officer in Borden call  the recruiting office and find out.

Now i will tell u my drug history from about when i was 15-18 i used marijuana about 3 times a week or so and that is probably more than what i used in a week most of the time but someties i could have been  a little more than that also the last time i used drugs was about 3 years and 3 months ago. Now i am not condoning marijuana use or any drug use for that matter i regret using drugs all the time, and i can honestly say that i will never use any illegal drug ever again in my life. 

I guess they are just worried about deployment were there is not extensive health care but i have never had any health problems related to drug use i have ran 2.4 in 10.15 i have hiked 20km with a heavy back pack i weight lift on a regular basis and i have held a physically demanding jib for 1 year and 6 months.

Well i am done venting so if anyone can share any similar experience or shed a little light on the subject it would be much appreciated, Thank You in advance

 

[kincanucks]

Sent you a PM.

Sent it again if it is a duplicate my apologies.

 

[Joe Blow]

Hi There -

from about when i was 15-18 i used marijuana about 3 times a week or so

also the last time i used drugs was about 3 years and 3 months ag

If you don't mind me asking how old are you now?

Try to think of an application process as courting.  They are getting to know you.  You are getting to know them.  What I mean is, it doesn't matter whether or not their position is defensible. (Before the onslaught begins please let me reiterate that it doesn't matter to the point at hand even if the CF's position is defensible.)  What's important is that this is their position.  The CF is going to be more than what ever your desired job is.  Every bureaucracy/institution has a culture.  That note was doing more than telling you're not welcome, or that you have to jump though hoops X,Y and Z.  It was telling you a bit about the institution that sent it.  Is this an institutional culture that you will be happy in?

I wonder about the culture of the CF sometimes.  I do not mean to suggest that it might be a 'negative' culture, or one that is wrong headed in some fashion, only that it might be a culture that is a bit removed from contemporary urban Canada.  For myself, I have come to be at peace with the fact that I may end up focusing my (formerly ..as in years ago) drug addled brain toward completing my Masters degree rather than burden the CF with it. 

In any case, if it doesn't work out in the end, a door closed only means a question answered. 

Best of luck!

 

[Trinity]

Try to think of an application process as courting.

Funniest thing I have read on ARMY.CA ever!

And its so true.... 

DAMN

 

[BDG.CalgHighrs]

Funniest thing I have read on ARMY.CA ever!

And its so true....  

darn

Courting, eh? No wonder it took me so long to get in...

 

[mjr payne]

well my medical file finally came back too the recruiting office and they said that it was a standard issue letter for someone with my previous drug use, and that i do not violate any cf drug policy but i still have to see a specialist and my physician which sux because now my file will be on hold until i complete that so hopefully i can get it all done asap .......2 years and counting but i know it will be worth the wait in the end!

 

[George]

Does anyone know if they can detect if you have smoked pot in the last 3 yrs...Because I tried it a couple of times in high school and i havn't done it since! and i was wondering if they can still detect it....and if you should tell them that you have done it. then opose to lieing to them!

Please Respond...

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

Be honest with them or suffer the consequences. try doing a search next time.

 

[George]

Honestly! How can they tell if your lieing about taking drugs if its not detected in the urine???

 

[infamous_p]

Past medical records, criminal charges, hospital visits, blood tests you had years ago, any rehab visits you may have had, urine tests from years ago....

You name it....

I'd simply say to not underestimate the system, you really never know.

 

[George]

welll, never had and medicals done before nore have i had any rehab...im not a drugie ive been up pot for 3 months now and iand i have my CFAT and Interview on the 31st of may and then my med and phys about 2 weeks later so i would have been free and clear of pot for about 4 months...and i tired shrooms once and E once as well...

 

[George]

sorry about the grammer! i have not done smoked pot for 3 months