Royal Canadian Air Force headed to mission in Africa ‘very soon’: top general

[Jarnhamar]

I like the idea of more HQ's!

Before we deploy we should also make everyone take a Gender Based Analyst + type package but make it about race. Maybe another about sexuality. And privilege.  :nod:

 

[daftandbarmy]

I like the idea of more HQ's!

Before we deploy we should also make everyone take a Gender Based Analyst + type package but make it about race. Maybe another about sexuality. And privilege.  :nod:

So we could call it the 'Champagne Socialist' primer then, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champagne_socialist

 

[armyvern]

I like the idea of more HQ's!

Before we deploy we should also make everyone take a Gender Based Analyst + type package but make it about race. Maybe another about sexuality. And privilege.  :nod:

A couple hours of my life that I will never get back.  :-\

 

[MarkOttawa]

Looks like pressure on government actually to make a decision:

Canadian troops, helicopters urgently needed in war-torn Mali: top UN official
Atul Khare said he's looking for Canadian help during an interview at the Halifax International Security Forum Friday [Nov. 18].

Canada's troops and helicopters are urgently needed to protect and ferry peacekeepers at risk of ambush from Islamist militant forces as they travel through war-torn Mali, a top United Nations official says.

Atul Khare, the under secretary general of the UN's department of field support, said he's looking for Canadian help during an interview at the Halifax International Security Forum Friday.

"I think the most important contributions currently would be devoted to Mali," he said after meeting with the Canadian and United Kingdom defence ministers.

He specified there is a shortage of both armed helicopters and military utility helicopters, adding "these challenges are quite critical and they need to be overcome."

Khare said he's also looking for Canada to help with combat logistical companies that escort military convoys as they make perilous journeys to the north of the West African nation.

"The logistical convoys ... are frequently ambushed and we face many challenges there," he said.

With a string of recent deaths along the roadways of the nation, Khare said he's hoping Canada makes its decision quickly.

"The needs were yesterday. We are searching for them today because we have not yet fulfilled those needs," he said...
http://www.metronews.ca/news/canada/2016/11/18/canadian-troops-helicopters-urgently-needed-in-war-torn-mali-top-un-official.html

Mark
Ottawa

 

[armyvern]

Looks like pressure on government actually to make a decision:

Mark
Ottawa

Indeed; we serve in interesting times.

 

[Old Sweat]

Wonder when the "Mister Dithers" handle gets resurrected?

 

[Kirkhill]

I suggest the UN contact the Minister of Defence's Press Secretary.  She seems to know his own mind better than he does.

I thought it was only Team Blue that controlled the message.

 

[ballz]

At risk of being a tinfoil hatter... I think the decision to go to Mali has long been made, and I feel like this "pressure" is staged...

 

[daftandbarmy]

At risk of being a tinfoil hatter... I think the decision to go to Mali has long been made, and I feel like this "pressure" is staged...

Ohhhh you're good  :nod:

 

[MilEME09]

soo we are suppose to secure Mali, run Combat Logistic patrols, CAS with Griffons, and transport with Chinooks, with a 600 personal contingent?

 

[The Bread Guy]

I thought it was only Team Blue that controlled the message.

Nobody likes to see it done until they're at the wheel, it seems ...

 

[Loachman]

CAS CCA with Griffons

CAS is seized-wing. CCA is "Close Combat Attack".

 

[daftandbarmy]

soo we are suppose to secure Mali, run Combat Logistic patrols, CAS with Griffons, and transport with Chinooks, with a 600 personal contingent?

But we 'always punch above our weight', right?

 

[MilEME09]

But we 'always punch above our weight', right?

I feel like we are a Welterweight fighter about to go up against a Heavy Weight weight fighter

 

[daftandbarmy]

I feel like we are a Welterweight fighter about to go up against a Heavy Weight weight fighter

With the 'PF Unicorn Team's ROE', I hope it won't be like a fighter with his hands tied behind his back up against a pack of hungry wolves.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

If the Mission is to support the French in killing bad guys and rebuilding some of the infrastructure there, while the French handle the culture side, then it's doable. But it's a combat mission almost on par with Afghanistan.

 

[OldSolduer]

I think that maybe our leaders....have visions of OPs dotting the landscape and that a blue beret will automatically make the bad people stop shooting.
Lets not forget to present arms to every UN Vehicle that passes by.....oh and 80 km to the north...the Kyrenia mountains!!

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[Journeyman]

If the Mission is to support the French in killing bad guys and rebuilding some of the infrastructure there, while the French handle the culture side, then it's doable. But it's a combat mission almost on par with Afghanistan.

I've heard no talk of supporting the French mission -- which wouldn't give us any points for that hypothetical UNSC seat -- but only adding on to the even worse-off UN mission.... whose troops are routinely attacked because they are deemed softer targets.  At the current rate, MINUSMA is well on its way to the dubious distinction of the most fatalities by belligerent attacks than any previous mission (yes, Somalia and Congo sucked massively, but the Jihadists in Mali are really upping their game).

Therefore, I'd argue that it'll be worse than Afghanistan, if only because:  a) there's even less  interest amongst the rest of the planet in African problems; and b) many Canadians still believe that this will be "peacekeeping," whereas it was eventually accepted that Afghanistan was a combat mission.  That belief, and the limited pers numbers, suggest that even with "robust ROEs" we won't have the full array of combat forces required -- we'll be bringing a knife to a gunfight.

 

[daftandbarmy]

I've heard no talk of supporting the French mission -- which wouldn't give us any points for that hypothetical UNSC seat -- but only adding on to the even worse-off UN mission.... whose troops are routinely attacked because they are deemed softer targets.  At the current rate, MINUSMA is well on its way to the dubious distinction of the most fatalities by belligerent attacks than any previous mission (yes, Somalia and Congo sucked massively, but the Jihadists in Mali are really upping their game).

Therefore, I'd argue that it'll be worse than Afghanistan, if only because:  a) there's even less  interest amongst the rest of the planet in African problems; and b) many Canadians still believe that this will be "peacekeeping," whereas it was eventually accepted that Afghanistan was a combat mission.  That belief, and the limited pers numbers, suggest that even with "robust ROEs" we won't have the full array of combat forces required -- we'll be bringing a knife to a gunfight.

When do we launch the "Canadian Armed Forces' Lives Matter" protests in Ottawa?

 

[Altair]

When do we launch the "Canadian Armed Forces' Lives Matter" protests in Ottawa?

I've asked some of my friends who are stupidly involved in BLM in Canada and I assure you the BLM movement actually couldn't care less about the Canadian military.